Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation

  • From: Arnaud <arnaudb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:26:53 +0200

well, this feature is very nice for Internet Explorer usage, but in
Nero Borning Rom for example, it's just unusable, since Nero show
sevral progress bar while burning a CD anyway, so basically you don't
know which progress bar you can trust.


On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:05:10 -0500, you wrote:

>the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the 
>competition had it for a long time.
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>this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6 excluding 
>the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra.
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>so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in 
>way of new features in version 6.
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>for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented.
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>its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update i 
>actually like that.
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>most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter.
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>so like most i turn it off.
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>the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those not 
>familiar with window eyes.
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>for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like 
>multi tasking, wow what a novel idea.
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>can you  imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things from 2 
>differant sites at the same time.
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>or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar.
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>do blind folks like that really exist.
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>well yes they do freedom scientific.
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>this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped.
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>freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke 
>assigned to it
>so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it.
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>in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows  for less 
>chatter.
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>so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback.
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>bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user wanted 
>to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its also 
>adjustable.
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>lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good 
>feature with a poor implementation.
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>as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that sucker off.
>the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off.
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>i have  to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of the 
>same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping.
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>lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw.
>lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it.
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>curious if any body on this list actually likes this current implementation 
>of this feature
>or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to invoke it.
>i have been waiting over a year for jfw to  add this feature, and now that 
>it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right.
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>by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw provides 
>a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option
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>so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic 
>feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route.
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>bill
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>At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:
>>Hi list.  Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it went
>>without problems.  However, I have noticed that when loading a web page or
>>downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent at
>>various intervals until everything is loaded.  Is there a way to shut this
>>up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product.
>>
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