Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:52:17 -0800

Hi,
I said I didn't care.  I was expressing curiosity about something else. 
Toggle, don't toggle.  I don't care what you do.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation


What would be  the harm of some toggle or  something to shut up the
inaccurate progress bar?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation


> Personally, I have no problem with this feature confusing or annoying me,
> although I respect the feelings of you and others who hate it.  Fine.  But
> my only question is this:  When loading a Web page, or downloading email,
> for instance, the thing really seems to be kind of silly.  I'll hear 1
> percent, then six per cent, or something, then all of a sudden 100 per
> cent.
> this has nothing to do with how I might set it to announce progress at
> this
> or that interval.  No.  This isn't what I'm describing.  What happens is
> that it seems to start tracking progress, then lose focus or something,
> and
> then announce 100 per cent or, in the case of a Web page, the status line
> will say "done," sometimes.  It simply doesn't seem to really work.  It's
> this that I actually find annoying, not the chatter.
>
> I don't wish to argue about the chattering.  I just want to know if anyone
> recognizes this problem I'm talking about.
>
> Thank you,
> Daniel
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:05 AM
> Subject: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
>
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> the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the
> competition had it for a long time.
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> this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6
> excluding
> the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra.
>
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> so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in
> way of new features in version 6.
>
> for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented.
>
> its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update i
> actually like that.
>
> most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter.
>
> so like most i turn it off.
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> the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those not
> familiar with window eyes.
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> for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like
> multi tasking, wow what a novel idea.
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> can you  imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things from
> 2
> differant sites at the same time.
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> or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar.
>
> do blind folks like that really exist.
>
> well yes they do freedom scientific.
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> this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped.
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>
> freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke
> assigned to it
> so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it.
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> in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows  for less
> chatter.
>
> so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback.
>
>
> bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user
> wanted
> to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its also
> adjustable.
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> lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good
> feature with a poor implementation.
>
> as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that sucker
> off.
> the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off.
>
> i have  to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of
> the
> same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping.
>
> lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw.
> lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it.
>
> curious if any body on this list actually likes this current
> implementation
> of this feature
> or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to invoke
> it.
> i have been waiting over a year for jfw to  add this feature, and now that
> it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right.
>
> by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw
> provides
> a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option
>
> so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic
> feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route.
>
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> bill
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> At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:
>>Hi list.  Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it went
>>without problems.  However, I have noticed that when loading a web page or
>>downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent at
>>various intervals until everything is loaded.  Is there a way to shut this
>>up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product.
>>
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