Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation

Yes... and I think it's because the program lags behind while it speaks. 
Then there is a trigger that announces 100% when the task is finished, even 
if it hasn't gone through the entire sequence. The cause is probably higher 
processors.

Gene


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From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation


> What would be  the harm of some toggle or  something to shut up the
> inaccurate progress bar?
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> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
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>> Personally, I have no problem with this feature confusing or annoying me,
>> although I respect the feelings of you and others who hate it.  Fine. 
>> But
>> my only question is this:  When loading a Web page, or downloading email,
>> for instance, the thing really seems to be kind of silly.  I'll hear 1
>> percent, then six per cent, or something, then all of a sudden 100 per
>> cent.
>> this has nothing to do with how I might set it to announce progress at
>> this
>> or that interval.  No.  This isn't what I'm describing.  What happens is
>> that it seems to start tracking progress, then lose focus or something,
>> and
>> then announce 100 per cent or, in the case of a Web page, the status line
>> will say "done," sometimes.  It simply doesn't seem to really work.  It's
>> this that I actually find annoying, not the chatter.
>>
>> I don't wish to argue about the chattering.  I just want to know if 
>> anyone
>> recognizes this problem I'm talking about.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Daniel
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:05 AM
>> Subject: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
>>
>>
>> the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the
>> competition had it for a long time.
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>> this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6
>> excluding
>> the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra.
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>> so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in
>> way of new features in version 6.
>>
>> for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented.
>>
>> its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update 
>> i
>> actually like that.
>>
>> most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter.
>>
>> so like most i turn it off.
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>> the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those not
>> familiar with window eyes.
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>> for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like
>> multi tasking, wow what a novel idea.
>>
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>> can you  imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things from
>> 2
>> differant sites at the same time.
>>
>> or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar.
>>
>> do blind folks like that really exist.
>>
>> well yes they do freedom scientific.
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>> this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped.
>>
>>
>> freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke
>> assigned to it
>> so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it.
>>
>>
>> in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows  for 
>> less
>> chatter.
>>
>> so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback.
>>
>>
>> bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user
>> wanted
>> to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its 
>> also
>> adjustable.
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>>
>> lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good
>> feature with a poor implementation.
>>
>> as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that sucker
>> off.
>> the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off.
>>
>> i have  to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of
>> the
>> same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping.
>>
>> lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw.
>> lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it.
>>
>> curious if any body on this list actually likes this current
>> implementation
>> of this feature
>> or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to invoke
>> it.
>> i have been waiting over a year for jfw to  add this feature, and now 
>> that
>> it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right.
>>
>> by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw
>> provides
>> a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option
>>
>> so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic
>> feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route.
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>> bill
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>> At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:
>>>Hi list.  Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it 
>>>went
>>>without problems.  However, I have noticed that when loading a web page 
>>>or
>>>downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent 
>>>at
>>>various intervals until everything is loaded.  Is there a way to shut 
>>>this
>>>up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product.
>>>
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