Personally, I have no problem with this feature confusing or annoying me, although I respect the feelings of you and others who hate it. Fine. But my only question is this: When loading a Web page, or downloading email, for instance, the thing really seems to be kind of silly. I'll hear 1 percent, then six per cent, or something, then all of a sudden 100 per cent. this has nothing to do with how I might set it to announce progress at this or that interval. No. This isn't what I'm describing. What happens is that it seems to start tracking progress, then lose focus or something, and then announce 100 per cent or, in the case of a Web page, the status line will say "done," sometimes. It simply doesn't seem to really work. It's this that I actually find annoying, not the chatter. I don't wish to argue about the chattering. I just want to know if anyone recognizes this problem I'm talking about. Thank you, Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the competition had it for a long time. this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6 excluding the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra. so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in way of new features in version 6. for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented. its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update i actually like that. most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter. so like most i turn it off. the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those not familiar with window eyes. for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like multi tasking, wow what a novel idea. can you imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things from 2 differant sites at the same time. or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar. do blind folks like that really exist. well yes they do freedom scientific. this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped. freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke assigned to it so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it. in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows for less chatter. so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback. bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user wanted to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its also adjustable. lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good feature with a poor implementation. as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that sucker off. the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off. i have to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of the same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping. lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw. lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it. curious if any body on this list actually likes this current implementation of this feature or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to invoke it. i have been waiting over a year for jfw to add this feature, and now that it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right. by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw provides a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route. bill At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >Hi list. Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it went >without problems. However, I have noticed that when loading a web page or >downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent at >various intervals until everything is loaded. Is there a way to shut this >up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product. > > >-- >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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