Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0700

Well, I've been typing since I was in high school more than forty years ago, 
and hitting either Enter key on a computer keyboard has never struck me as 
an inconvenience. But if that's how you feel, great. We're all different.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerby Hill" <kerby.hill@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode


I hit space instead of enter a lot myself only because in some cases it's
quicker than hitting enter.  I.E. hitting the tab key and hitting space on
the item I want since my thumb is practically on the space bar anyway where
hitting enter, you would have to reach over a little with your pinky.  Then
again, I am lazy in a lot of ways too.

Kerby

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode


> Hi Rick,
>
> I'm not generally afraid to experiment. I'm a longtime Jaws user. But to
> be
> honest, although I'm curious to see what sorts of situations might benefit
> from my using the space bar to enter forms mode, I've never felt I had a
> problem related to using the Enter key for that in the first place, you
> see.
> So it just didn't occur to me that there was even a problem that required
> a
> creative solution. What was it that inspired you or Jerry to even bother
> with this? And what have you determined from your experience is
> advantageous
> about this substitution? That's a straight question. Not being sarcastic.
> Not forgetting that there are a million ways to skin a cat, do something
> in
> Jaws or Windows, or whatever, please understand. Just asking. Hope that
> keeps the flamers down.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
> From triaal and error sometimes.  Don't be afraid to experiment a bit,This
> isn't really documented.  Enter is the official accepted way of entering
> forms mode.
>
> Rick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
> Okay, fine. But where did you learn that this could be done, is what I'm
> asking. Implicitly. Like/as they say.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
> Try it. You'll like it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> through numerous versions of Jaws, I've never learned from the
>> documentation
>> or tutorials or ever heard anyone say, as you have, that you can use the
>> space bar to enter Forms Mode. Seriously? That's interesting. The
>> instruction has always been to press Enter, and I never inferred that to
>> be
>> suggesting or implying that this is like working with controls labeled
>> buttons, where sometimes enter will do the job but other times it's the
>> space bar. I thought Forms Mode was just an enter thing, end of story.
>>
>> Not so, apparently?Seriously
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>>
>>
>> Just something I've noticed. I usually use the space bar to go into forms
>> mode with older versions of Jaws. That cuts down on going where I don't
>> want
>> to.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Rose Combs
>>  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:42 PM
>>  Subject: RE: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>>
>>
>>  If you do not like it turn it off.  Personally it is something that is
>> very long overdue in my opinion.  I like not having to press enter to
>> fill
>> in forms, it needs a bit more work, for example if one tabs to put in a
>> password after a user name it sometimes turns off and getting it back
>> again
>> can be a annoying but, for the most part this is a feature I like a
>> lot--a
>> feather that often in the past has made me switch to System Access when I
>> know I am going to be filling in forms.
>>
>>
>>  Rose Combs
>>  rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of alice dampman
>>  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:41 AM
>>  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>>
>>
>>  I don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to
>> fill
>> out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode, there
>> is
>> no chance of typing something into an edit field unintentionally, I
>> always
>> know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if for some reason, I'm
>> unsure,
>> all I have to do is press the key combination for the pc cursor to find
>> out.
>>      I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me,
>> and
>> automatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to be there
>> falls
>> into that category IMO.
>>  Alice
>>  alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>>    From: Peter Holdstock
>>    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM
>>    Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>>
>>
>>
>>    Hi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoying when
>> sometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you first
>> load
>> up a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a search box or
>> username field, and the website is designed to put you straight to either
>> of
>> the boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as soon as the page has
>> loaded
>> (sometimes even whilst it's loading), and then you can't use your
>> navigation
>> quick keys to move around the page, without having to press down arrow
>> first
>> to get out of forms mode.
>>
>>    I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in
>> situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field.
>>
>>    Anybody else have any comments on this?
>>
>>    Peter
>>
>>
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