Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
- From: "alice dampman" <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:21:12 -0400
It sounded to me as if often when the person who wrote the message about
this went onto a web page and landed on an edit field, he was automatically
thrown into forms mode. Doesn't sound to me as if he had a choice at all.
The decision was made for him. The way JAWS 9 works, you have a choice. You
are by default not in forms mode, and if you want to be, you choose it.
There's no guesswork, no sometimes you're in forms mode, sometimes not. It
is consistent, and, IMO, works very well because of that consistency.
And there is a point in complaining about it: since, as I understand it,
JAWS 10 is still in Beta, if enough people say they don't like this feature
and why they don't like it, FS may rethink it and save us all a lot of
trouble.
alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
There's nothing wrong with giving people the option. If auto-forms mode
were being forced on anyone, then there might be a point to complaining
about it, but it's not, so in my personal opinion, there isn't.
Bruce
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:58:03 -0300, "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
I agree 100% with Alice! If it aint broke, don't fix it!
----- Original Message -----
From: alice dampman
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
I don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to
fill out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode,
there is no chance of typing something into an edit field
unintentionally, I always know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if
for some reason, I'm unsure, all I have to do is press the key
combination for the pc cursor to find out.
I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me,
and automatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to
be there falls into that category IMO.
Alice
alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Holdstock
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM
Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
Hi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoying when
sometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you
first load up a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a
search box or username field, and the website is designed to put you
straight to either of the boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as
soon as the page has loaded (sometimes even whilst it's loading), and
then you can't use your navigation quick keys to move around the
page, without having to press down arrow first to get out of forms
mode.
I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in
situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field.
Anybody else have any comments on this?
Peter
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There's nothing wrong with giving people the option. If auto-forms mode were being forced on anyone, then there might be a point to complaining about it, but it's not, so in my personal opinion, there isn't. Bruce On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:58:03 -0300, "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
I agree 100% with Alice! If it aint broke, don't fix it!----- Original Message ----- From: alice dampmanTo: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode I don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to fill out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode, there is no chance of typing something into an edit field unintentionally, I always know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if for some reason, I'm unsure, all I have to do is press the key combination for the pc cursor to find out. I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me, and automatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to be there falls into that category IMO. Alice alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: Peter HoldstockTo: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode Hi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoying when sometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you first load up a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a search box or username field, and the website is designed to put you straight to either of the boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as soon as the page has loaded (sometimes even whilst it's loading), and then you can't use your navigation quick keys to move around the page, without having to press down arrow first to get out of forms mode. I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field. Anybody else have any comments on this? Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1678 - Release Date: 9/18/2008 9:01 AM
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