Yeh I agree. I hate it as well when sighted colleagues just take the keyboard and start typing in an edit box and it all goes wrong with JAWS reading sutff.
I think this new version goes in to forms mode if a sighted person clicks on an edit field doesn't it.
Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 8:44 PM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
From someone who works with sighted people only, not having to press enterto get into forms mode is going to be a huge plus if and when I can installthis on the work computer. Explaining forms mode to the uninitiated is always a pain because they just do not get the concept. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode Hi Orhan, Obviously, AutoForm is great for some and not so wonderful for others. The points I was trying to make are as follows:1. Machines, regardless of how sophisticated they are built, are incapableof considering everything the human individual can.2. FS, to its credit, has given JAWS users a choice; leave AutoForm on, orturn it off. Many software companies don't write such flexibility into their software. Sometimes, that is also necessary. Forgive me for not being more clear in my earlier post. Respectfully, -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of orhan deniz Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:03 AM To: Gene Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode Hi Gene, I'm a power user and I absolutely love auto-forms mode. It was annoying tosay the least that you had to press enter on edit controls, and then get out of them. This is intuitive for new users as well, and I think it was a goodmove by FS. Sure there are some bugds in it, for example, in firefox, whenyou press alt + down arrow, a combo box will not open automatically and youhave to press enter. Not the mention productivity and the sound that they have implemented to speed up things.Yes you can turn off auto-forms mode in the jaws verbosity options alongsidewith the accompanying sounds. Best regards, Orhan. -- Orhan Deniz. E-mail: orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx MSN/Windows Live ID: orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: orhan.deniz63 Blog: http://worldandother.wordpress.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008 Last.fm! Profile: http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993 On Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:36:56 PM, Gene Wrote:Alice:I understand your feelings. In fact, I don't like the idea of machines doing my thinking either. My understanding is, however, AutoForms Modecanbe turned off.Respectfully,-----Original Message-----From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf alice dampman Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:41 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms modeI don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to fill out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode, there is no chance of typing something into an edit field unintentionally, I always know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if for some reason, I'm unsure,all I have to do is press the key combination for the pc cursor to findout.I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me, andautomatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to be therefallsinto that category IMO. Alice alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Holdstock <mailto:peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms modeHi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoyingwhensometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you firstloadup a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a search box or username field, and the website is designed to put you straight to eitherofthe boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as soon as the page has loaded(sometimes even whilst it's loading), and then you can't use yournavigationquick keys to move around the page, without having to press down arrowfirstto get out of forms mode. I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field. Anybody else have any comments on this? Peter________________________________No virus found in this incoming message. 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