RE: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

  • From: "Gene" <gwilson@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:14:13 -0700

Orhan,

No problems, worries or hard feelings here.

Take care.

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of orhan deniz
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:52 PM
To: Gene
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

Hi Gene,
No. I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was just stating my opinions about why
I liked auto-forms mode and just stating you could turn of it off.
Hope this clarifies,
Best regards,
Orhan.
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On Thursday, 18 September 2008 7:41:39 PM, Gene Wrote:
> Hi Orhan,

> Obviously, AutoForm is great for some and not so wonderful for others. The
> points I was trying to make are as follows:

> 1.  Machines, regardless of how sophisticated they are built, are
incapable
> of considering everything the human individual can.
> 2.  FS, to its credit, has given JAWS users a choice; leave AutoForm on,
or
> turn it off.  Many software companies don't write such flexibility into
> their software.  Sometimes, that is also necessary.

> Forgive me for not being more clear in my earlier post.

> Respectfully,
>  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of orhan deniz
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: Gene
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

> Hi Gene,
> I'm a power user and I absolutely love auto-forms mode. It was annoying to
> say the least that you had to press enter on edit controls, 
> and then get out of them. This is intuitive for new users as well, and I
> think it was a good move by FS. Sure there are some bugds in it, for
> example, in firefox, when you press alt + down arrow, a combo box will not
> open automatically and you have to press enter.
> Not the mention productivity and the sound that they have implemented to
> speed up things.
> Yes you can turn off auto-forms mode in the jaws verbosity options
alongside
> with the accompanying sounds.


> Best regards,
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> On Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:36:56 PM, Gene Wrote:
>> Alice:

>> I understand your feelings.  In fact, I don't like the idea of machines
>> doing my thinking either.  My understanding is, however, AutoForms Mode
> can
>> be turned off.

>> Respectfully,


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
>> Of alice dampman
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:41 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

>> I don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to
fill
>> out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode, there
is
>> no chance of typing something into an edit field unintentionally, I
always
>> know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if for some reason, I'm
unsure,
>> all I have to do is press the key combination for the pc cursor to find
> out.

>>     I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me,
and
>> automatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to be there
> falls
>> into that category IMO. 
>> Alice 
>> alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx

>>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>>         From: Peter Holdstock <mailto:peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>  
>>         To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>         Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM
>>         Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

>>          
>>         Hi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoying
> when
>> sometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you first
> load
>> up a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a search box or
>> username field, and the website is designed to put you straight to either
> of
>> the boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as soon as the page has
loaded
>> (sometimes even whilst it's loading), and then you can't use your
> navigation
>> quick keys to move around the page, without having to press down arrow
> first
>> to get out of forms mode.
>>          
>>         I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in
>> situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field.
>>          
>>         Anybody else have any comments on this?
>>          
>>         Peter

>>         
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