[iyonix-support] Re: Spam infiltration
- From: Chris Evans <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: iyonix-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:31:57 +0100 (BST)
On Mon 31 Jul, Martin Wuerthner wrote:
>
> In message <4e4e66b3bbfrank@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Frank de Bruijn <frank@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >> Rainer Schubert wrote:
> >>
> >> > Harriet, point your browser at http://www.dl6hbo.de/downloads/RISC_OS/
> >> > where you should find my !MDM utility which is capable to sent back
> >> > unwanted email that has escaped SpamStamp etc. and has been delivered.
>
> Sounds like a disastrous idea to me.
Yes it could easily backfire and get you black listed!
We get hundreds of spams a day, that use forged "from address's" to non
existant user at our domain, bouncing them 'back' to the the forged from
address achieves the spammers aim, and makes us appear to be the spammer.
Rule 1. never bounce back (return user not known)
Rule 2. don't reply unless you get repeat emails from the same source that
has an unsubscribe option and even then only if you consider on balance that
there is a realistic possibility that you may really be unsubscribed.
I will do this to postings from companies that seem to be real and often
even give me their phone number, I would never bother with a Viagra type
selling site.
>
> >> > You asked me before for an URL to download it from... years ago.
> >>
> >> I don't believe that bouncing e-mail back to spammers in this day and
> >> age is going to do anything beyond increasing my own bandwidth usage -
> >
> > Indeed. And you would very likely be spamming some unsuspecting third
> > party. Remember, sender addresses on spam are often forged these days.
>
> More than just often. Practically always.
>
> > I haven't looked at !MDM, but if it doesn't do some very clever
> > processing to locate the real culprit, I would advise against using it.
> > Strongly.
>
> Yes, I fully agree. Actually, anyone using a program like MDM nowadays
> effectively becomes a spammer himself/herself. Rainer, I do not think
> offering such a program is a good idea, even less so using it.
>
> Fortunately, it will not work for most users anyway. Most ISPs only
> allow messages to be sent from one of the e-mail addresses the
> customer has registered.
>
> Martin
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