Hi Austin, I am sorry if I mis-spoke then ... I have not bought dxdesigner in a while, and when I did last I had the netlister for allegro in the "deal"... I am sure it would not be hard to write a converter, the .tel file is not that complicated... Mike -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:12 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro Hi Mike, It does come with PADS now as part of any "seat", Allegro you have to pay extra for (and I believe always did). But, prior to the PADS "merger", I believe you had to buy any netlister besides the "generic" one. Yes, I have DxDesigner (and Allegro, and PADS)...that's what I checked with. Regards, Austin > -----Original Message----- > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Shannon > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:07 PM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > > I was fairly sure a standard dxdesigner license had 1 seat of a > PCB backend > with it. > > As the netlister is controlled by a config file - I am not sure > if the tool > is now generic - or backend vendor specific ... > > Do you have access to dxdesigner? > > mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:27 PM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > Hi Michael, > > In DxDesigner, from what I can tell, the "native" output (as in generic > netlist) is a .net file. How you get, according to the documentation, a > .tel file is with the Allegro netlister, which is an option. If > you have a > way to get a .tel and .txt (device files) out of DxDesigner without the > optional Allegro netlister, I'd like to understand how that is done. > > Regards, > > Austin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > > austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:00 PM > > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > Does DxDesigner (which is the latest incarnation of ViewDraw) > > output a .tel > > file as well? Does it contain rules? Can you elaborate on that design > > flow please? > > > > Regards, > > > > Austin > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: Michael Shannon mshannon@xxxxxxxxx > > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:30:12 -0500 > > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > > > > > Viewdraw natively outputs a .tel file and a set of devices files. > > > > The .tel is in allegro 3rd party netlist format. You don't need > to change > > it. > > > > This is a VERY common design flow. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Austin Franklin"<austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: 3/23/06 11:11:17 AM > > To: "icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > Typically, people use the ViewDraw to Allegro translator that costs > > something like $2500, and the other is to have ViewDraw > output a PADS > > netlist, and there are a couple of ways to use that. > > > > Was the original Allegro .brd file made from these ViewDraw > > schematics? > > > > Regards, > > > > Austin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of alan fisch > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:19 AM > > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Viewdraw to Allegro > > > > > > > > [Message truncated. 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