[PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro

Hi Mike,

Mentor wants $2500 for it, which IMO is overpriced given what it
does/doesn't do.  Seems like there are no more "deals" with Viewlogic or
PADS products now, Mentor is milking them for everything they can!

I currently use a home brew program that converts the PADS netlist into an
Allegro netlist.  You can also directly import a PADS ASCII netlist into
Allegro.

Regards,

Austin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Shannon
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:25 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
>
>
> Hi Austin,
>
>  I am sorry if I mis-spoke then ...
>  I have not bought dxdesigner in a while, and when I did last
>  I had the netlister for allegro in the "deal"...
>
>  I am sure it would not be hard to write a converter, the .tel file
>  is not that complicated...
>
>   Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:12 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> It does come with PADS now as part of any "seat", Allegro you have to pay
> extra for (and I believe always did).  But, prior to the PADS "merger", I
> believe you had to buy any netlister besides the "generic" one.
>
> Yes, I have DxDesigner (and Allegro, and PADS)...that's what I
> checked with.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Shannon
> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:07 PM
> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
> >
> >
> > I was fairly sure a standard dxdesigner license had 1 seat of a
> > PCB backend
> > with it.
> >
> > As the netlister is controlled by a config file - I am not sure
> > if the tool
> > is now generic - or backend vendor specific ...
> >
> > Do you have access to dxdesigner?
> >
> > mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin
> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:27 PM
> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > In DxDesigner, from what I can tell, the "native" output (as in generic
> > netlist) is a .net file.  How you get, according to the documentation, a
> > .tel file is with the Allegro netlister, which is an option.  If
> > you have a
> > way to get a .tel and .txt (device files) out of DxDesigner without the
> > optional Allegro netlister, I'd like to understand how that is done.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Austin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > > austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:00 PM
> > > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > Does DxDesigner (which is the latest incarnation of ViewDraw)
> > > output a .tel
> > > file as well?  Does it contain rules?  Can you elaborate on
> that design
> > > flow please?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Austin
> > >
> > > Original Message:
> > > -----------------
> > > From: Michael Shannon mshannon@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:30:12 -0500
> > > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
> > >
> > >
> > > Viewdraw natively outputs a .tel file and a set of devices files.
> > >
> > > The .tel is in allegro 3rd party netlist format. You don't need
> > to change
> > > it.
> > >
> > > This is a VERY common design flow.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: "Austin Franklin"<austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >     Sent: 3/23/06 11:11:17 AM
> > >     To: "icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >     Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro
> > >
> > >     Hi Alan,
> > >
> > >     Typically, people use the ViewDraw to Allegro translator
> that costs
> > >     something like $2500, and the other is to have ViewDraw
> > output a PADS
> > >     netlist, and there are a couple of ways to use that.
> > >
> > >     Was the original Allegro .brd file made from these ViewDraw
> > > schematics?
> > >
> > >     Regards,
> > >
> > >     Austin
> > >
> > >      -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >     [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of alan fisch
> > >     Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:19 AM
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> > >     Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Viewdraw to Allegro
> > >
> > >
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