I was fairly sure a standard dxdesigner license had 1 seat of a PCB backend with it. As the netlister is controlled by a config file - I am not sure if the tool is now generic - or backend vendor specific ... Do you have access to dxdesigner? mike -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:27 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro Hi Michael, In DxDesigner, from what I can tell, the "native" output (as in generic netlist) is a .net file. How you get, according to the documentation, a .tel file is with the Allegro netlister, which is an option. If you have a way to get a .tel and .txt (device files) out of DxDesigner without the optional Allegro netlister, I'd like to understand how that is done. Regards, Austin > -----Original Message----- > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:00 PM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > > Hi Michael, > > Does DxDesigner (which is the latest incarnation of ViewDraw) > output a .tel > file as well? Does it contain rules? Can you elaborate on that design > flow please? > > Regards, > > Austin > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Michael Shannon mshannon@xxxxxxxxx > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:30:12 -0500 > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > > Viewdraw natively outputs a .tel file and a set of devices files. > > The .tel is in allegro 3rd party netlist format. You don't need to change > it. > > This is a VERY common design flow. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Austin Franklin"<austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: 3/23/06 11:11:17 AM > To: "icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Viewdraw to Allegro > > Hi Alan, > > Typically, people use the ViewDraw to Allegro translator that costs > something like $2500, and the other is to have ViewDraw output a PADS > netlist, and there are a couple of ways to use that. > > Was the original Allegro .brd file made from these ViewDraw > schematics? > > Regards, > > Austin > > -----Original Message----- > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of alan fisch > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:19 AM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Viewdraw to Allegro > > > > [Message truncated. 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