Gary, What version of the software are you running on? and is the application error repeatable? Meaning can you replay your design and get it to fail again running the exact same commands. I normally do this by converting my .jrl to a .scr and replay it. If I can get it to crash again using the exact same commands then I send the database along with the script back to Cadence. Tony Cosentino ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:17 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Kicks me out! Hey guys, This ugly situation has been happening more frequently lately. The window below pops up, then hands you the gun to put to you head! Anyone know what the cause is? Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx