It is starting to sound good. Just remember that some modifiers stem from units, some from skills, some from effects, etc and so forth. I would hate for you to make several diffrent modifiers for each type and they would all have to stack too, lol. Iam going to have to get used to the turns/rounds thing. In d&d rounds are the instances within turns, but for TB turns are going to be within rounds, so thanks for catching that, I didn't even realize I wrote it that way. By the way I like the hot key idea for finding out number of rounds, that is going to be very useful. al "The truth will set you free" Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Reed To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 6:13 PM Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Some thoughts on turns and rounds Hey Allan, Wow, great stuff. That helps me wrap my head around it a bit better. I'll need to put some more thought into how we can support all those various types of modifiers. Allan said: In your chance of success, you would have to decide if an attribute would give a modifier or be the modifier I say: It might be possible to support both scenarios. If I have a point that is strength = 18. Then we could add some new type to the game that is a calculated point. So a calculated point called attac roll would equal 4 if the strength point is 18. And the calculated point would have some small amount of math or ranges that specify 18 = 4, 12 through 14 = 0, 10 = -1. Then map creators could reference either strength or attack roll as a modifier since both are points, one is just calculated off the other. Allan said: I liked the idea of a "critical" success or failure. That was sheer brilliance. I say: I agree, sheer brilliance, but I can't take credit for it. Dark actually outlined that idea a couple months ago when we were discussing how an RPG maker would work. It's been in the back of my mind for a while. I've got a lot of thinking to determine how all those various types of modifiers can easily be put into the game, but it gives me a great reference for all the possibilities. I'll keep the email for later reference when I get closer to it and more of the foundation has been built. Now on to your turns and rounds email: You said: So that means there can be any number of rounds in a turn, depending on number of teams playing, right? I say: Actually any number of turns in a round, and yes it depends on the number of teams playing. You said: round 2 al turn blaze fizzles at end of al's turn. Did I get that right? I say: Almost, it fizzles at the beginning of your turn rather than the end. So a longer example with 4 teams and I am the second team: Round 1: team 1 turn Ian's turn, casts blaze which has a duration of 1 team 3 turn team 4 turn Round 2: Team 1 turn Blaze fizzles as my turn begins. Thanks for the feedback. Ian Reed