[openbeos] Re: our own language
- From: François Revol <revol@xxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:33:35 +0100 (MET)
En réponse à Matt Verran <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Just an insight into the mind of a non C++ dev... (ie:- this is not
> meant to be flamebait! :) )
Ready... Go ! =)
> Ok, I've posted before and mentioned i'm no BeOS developer - but I
> would be if a) I knew C++, and b) C++ on BeOS was easy to get to grips
> with. All the sub classes, instances, macros, inheritance, destructors
> and stuff confuses the hell out of me, and programming for the BeOS
> relies on all that stuff.
Well, that's part of C++
> Give me RAD C++ and maybe I could do some apps. Let me learn the
RAD tools don't remove complexity... they only hide it (making it harder when
you need to face it anyway because the RAD limits have been hit). Not to say
it's useless of course, just you need to know what's behind.
> language (logic, program flow etc) first, then understand all the
> behind the scenes arsing about! Why don't we see about Kylix? Before
> anyone starts - yes I know its Delphi and that means Pascal - but lets
Hmmm having seen what Borland does now, I'm afraid I'll never try Kylix or
any other of their product: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/369/
They used to be good (their product themselves still maybe good, but this
licencing issue sucks).
> attract outsiders in.
>
> I've been trying to learn C/C++ for 3 years - albeit with little
> motivation because I can't get any results - which makes me ( a non
> C++
> coder) find the Metrowerks IDE and GCC very backward - I know its not,
>
> but its the impression given!
>
> While a VB-alike is no use for OS-level stuff and media things, its
> handy for knocking up applications very quickly, especially for the
> rest of the world. We could even use Replicants as our 'ActiveX'
> replacement. Since its Apps that we lack, then I think this is all
> worth considering - even if they are frontends for POSIX stuff like
> Postgresql.
>
> So if a VB-alike RAD is not on the cards, I suggest a cracking tutorial
>
> going from 'Hello World' to writing a simple GUI app using a shared lib
>
> or two. Because OpenBeOS will be a wasted effort if we still don't have
>
> any apps.
>
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>
>
>
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> >VB is what is referred to as a R.A.D. tool (Rapid Application
> Development).
> >If proper class lbraries of widgets are developed in C++ for BeOS
> then
> >the RAD tool idea would not follow far behind.
> > The truth is, it's very easy to learn to program in C++. Give
> yourself a
> >nice liberal 6 months tooling around with the BeOS libraries and
> >codewarrior.
> >If you want RAD tools after that.......
> > Occasionaly I think to myself that it would be nice to have a RAD
>
> tool
> >for building apps on the BeOS. It's nice to be able to count on the
> meat
> >code
> >rather than the skeleton so much.
> >
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> My thought is what if we developed a VB like
> >> language for openbeos, people could write apps
> >> a lot faster, new people to the os would find it easy
> >> to code in, and i think that we would get a lot more
> >> apps to the os, which would in return encourage
> >> people to stick with the os.
> >>
> >> i dunno just a thought =/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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