Rob Tijssen wrote: > damn .. this should be offlist ... sorry ... my mistake... No mistake, Rob, because you spelt it out just like it is. The community has divergent opinions, and in this thread they all came out. Many people get pissed off by it under the stupid guise of it being off-topic. But it's probably those very same folks who have a rather narrow horizon themselves, and anything outside of their opinion and comfort zone gets attacked - in fact, it has to be. There is IMO __no difference whatsoever__ between a misguided economic rant and a message like this: Look ma, ascii graphics! heh Just one of many dozens on this list. That message should have been off-list too, so all those sitting in glass houses, keep the stones to yourself, breathe deeply, and get a life. A mailing list is not your personal playground, nor do all people agree with your opinions. If you don't like it, ignore it. If it becomes too much for you, unsubscribe. But the latter option by definition also prevents you from expanding your horizon, and looking at this list, there are a lot of folks who'd do well with a bit of "horizon expanding" treatment. /me is just relaxed and takes openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx messages as they were before. No need to get upset or irritated. And if it really gets too bad, one message will stop it all. My final 0.02 on the childish behaviour of some posters here... Helmar