On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 08:37:23PM +0200, Rimas Kudelis wrote: > 2012.03.11 20:28, Siarzhuk Zharski rašė: > >Am 11.03.2012 17:50, schrieb Rimas Kudelis: > >>Looking at BeShare, I think that perhaps what you are looking for is > >>an app which focuses on groupchat? > > > >BTW, BeShare is focusing on sharing. ;-) Beshare was a part of the > >BeOS Culture and as many other things in Old Good Times it is > >impossible to explain why we have loved it. :-P > > The times have shifted though, and I think it should be quite easily > possible not to love it anymore. ;) A few points from my POV that may have been missed... As far as I can see, and as Siarzhuk mentions, the focus of BeShare is different from the various chat clients. What I saw BeShare mainly used for was making files available to others. It was(/is) a distributed resource mechanism in which folks could make stuff they wanted to share available in a folder on their machine, and as long as they were connected to a BeShare server others could browse -- and search -- to find what they were looking for. It was vital on a few occasions for locating stuff that had vanished off BeBits. And though BeShare itself has been a bit neglected, the underlying "Muscle" protocol is anything but dead! It is supported by audio heavyweight MeyerSound, and is being actively developed. The author's most recent post on the website is about a month ago ( https://public.msli.com/lcs/muscle/ ). For those not familiar with it, Muscle explicitly uses a BMessage-like scheme to transmit over TCP/IP. Jeremy Friesner originally developed it under BeOS, but it was always cross-platform. It seems to be a very flexible protocol that definitely should be on Haiku. Looking at the osdrawer page, it sounds from Fredrik's notes that there are some problems getting it all to work in Haiku, but as Muscle is explicitly cross-platform I'd assume they won't be too fatal. Maybe Fredrik can chip in here to explain more. > > >So I vote for packaging BeShare too. ;-) > > I can't stop anyone from doing that. I'm just saying that from my PoV, > packaging and supporting it would be a little waste of resources, and > Haiku doesn't have too many of them. Why not spend those 10 minutes to > improve Caya instead? :P I'd vote strongly in favour of having both available, as they are both live protocols. Meyer's interest is obviously specific to their audio control systems, but Friesner has been careful to keep Muscle very general. I think having an active 'HaikuShare' community would be a great thing! -- Pete --