In the HC model, there are two primary vectors for describing the motion of a geostationary satellite: one toward Earth (gravity) and the other perpendicular to the first (satellite inertia). In the GC model, and assuming no other "outside" forces such as frame dragging or an aether wind, there must also be two primary vectors for a geostationary satellite to exist: one toward Earth (gravity) and the other equal and opposite to that gravity. We know that satellites do not continuously generate such an equal and opposite force to gravity. Therefore, for GC to work there must be an outside force vector acting on the satellite. If the outside force is tending to "push" or "pull" objects around the Earth, a geostationary satellite could not remain in place without continuously generating a counterforce. However, satellites do not continuously generate counterforces. If the outside force is tending to resist Earth's gravity, such that there is a center of gravity between Earth and rest of the Cosmos, then we would not accelerate a satellite into orbit but would instead take it up to a point of balanced gravity and bring it to a standstill. This does not happen either. These thoughts lead me to agree with Neville and conclude that either geostationary satellites do not exist or GC has a serious problem. Bob -----Original Message----- From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dr. Neville Jones Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:08 PM To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Supposed geostationary satellites The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of many things, like ... "geostationary satellites." If these things exist, as I've said before, then geocentrism is finished. And, in particular, Newton's gravitation formula would be correct and mine would be wrong. So, I now want to start a serious thread about these things and first I would like to hear any "evidence" that they definitely do exist. 1. IN BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD DOES NOT ROTATE. 2. IN BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD DOES NOT ORBIT THE SUN. 3. HENCE, IN BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY, THE MOTIONS WE SEE ARE REAL. 4. IN HELIOCENTRIC COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD ROTATES. 5. IN HELIOCENTRIC COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD ORBITS THE SUN. 6. HENCE, IN HELIOCENTRIC COSMOLOGY, THE MOTIONS WE SEE ARE NOT REAL. Website www.midclyth.supanet.com Neville. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com