Philip wrote: > How true Mike. But I think you label yourself wrongly as a devout atheist. > Agnostic may be a fairer title. Yes, theorectically I am an agnostic as my belief in there being no God must be faith as there is no way of proving this. But by the same token I would say everyone is agnostic. I know people with faith will argue that this isn't true, but purely from my perspective as a non believer that is the only conclusion I can consistently draw. For all intents and purposes though, I am an atheist, I really do believe there is no God with (I believe) as much conviction as anyone else believes there is one. > But true science if it is to arrive at truth cannot be exclusive can it? Um, no, but I don't know what you're getting at. > I > remember as a youth, reading of a university, Duke Uni I think, that had set > up a department on the paranormal. Can't help thinking, if the paranormal > was real, then it would be normal wouldn't it? Like the so called > supernatural. If the evidence supported the existence of these phenomena, > can physics claim to be true science if it excludes them? I agree entirely, I have often used this line of reasoning with people who believe in astrology, psychic powers etc. > I guess you can see my connection here in regard to the geocentric question > and exclusion. Telepathy is not Radio, or is it precogniscence? Um, no, maybe I'm a bit dense today but the only connection I see is that your reasoning about the paranormal and supernatural equally applies to religion. Regards, Mike.