Dear Philip, See all below. -- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evolution I cant agree Jack.. Paul already has his own body to observe, which is far more complicated than a crabs, without going to the beach. Biological items cannot be compared with inamimate objects such as a bucket or a computer. That's my whole point Philip, even you can't see it! Our own bodies are a living testimony to a fantastic complex creation that cannot be compared to a bucket, spade, computer or even a crab. So why do you stop at common sense reasoning as soon a 'life' (biology) is the subject? You're postion is no different than Jacques Monod, whose book was trounced by Wilder-Smith. Jack