[geocentrism] Re: Bible Geocentrism - The Earth is NOT Moving!!
- From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:23:07 +0000 (GMT)
Bernie B, Philip M
I don't say that Uranus and Neptune are travelling faster than light --
Geocentrism says it.
The speed of light was first determined to be 180,000 mps (before the speed of
sound was determined) by the apparent leading and lagging of the orbiting of
Jupiter by its major satellites due to the extra distance the light had to
travel across Earth's orbit as Jupiter moved from inferior conjunction to
superior conjunction. Subsequent experiments largely supported this measurement
but refined the estimate to 186,000 mps. These latter experiments were done in
Earth based laboratories and did not involve what you might call assumptions
thus the new value can be used to verify that the understood distance across
Earth's orbit was -- approximately -- correct.
With the speed of light now known, the distance to the four gas giants can be
determined from the round trip time taken for radio signals to and from the
Voyager space probes as they passed these planets and the diameter of Earth's
orbit is confirmed in the act. The distances understood to be known prior to
Voyager were not modified post Voyager. Thus the orbit radii of Jupiter =
489,900,000 miles, Saturn = 887,100,000 miles, Uranus = 1,784,000,000 miles
and Neptune = 2,795,500,000 miles are known.
The circumference of the orbit of Saturn is -
2 * pi * r = 6.28 * 887,100,000 = 5,570,988,000 miles
and travelled in 86,400 s (24 h) gives a speed of 64,479 mps.
The circumference of the orbit of Uranus is -
2 * pi * r = 6.28 * 1,784,000,000 = 11,203,520,000 miles
and travelled in 86,400 s (24 h) gives a speed of 129,670 mps.
The circumference of the orbit of Neptune is -
2 * pi * r = 6.28 * 2,795,500,000 = 17,555,740,000 miles
and travelled in 86,400 s (24 h) gives a speed of 203,191 mps.
On these numbers, it is only Neptune which travels faster than light. Guess
that'll teach me not to quote without verifying! To show my integrity, I've
left my error intact.
Concerning where men have travelled. In 1968, the crew of Apollo VIII circled
the Moon -- which is MUCH more distant than 300 miles -- and on Christmas Day
of that year, read from Genesis while so orbiting. While in orbit they also
took photographs including photographs of the rear side of the Moon. These
photographs were of a quality superior to those taken by Soviet Luna 3 in 1959
--
http://images.google.com/images?q=soviet+luna+3+photo&rls=com.microsoft:en-au:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA&um=1&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title but
comparison will show sufficient points of equality to verify that they are of
the same landscape. Though I cannot show you here, I have in my possession a
Super-8 movie film of the high lights of Apollo VIII -- purchased in 1969 --
which probably shows scenes from the rear side of the Moon (it's a long time
since I watched it). It's in a rather inaccessible box unfortunately but in any
event, I don't own a projector. I've been meaning to get it transferred to
video tape or DVD for some time -- maybe soon. Subsequent film has only
improved the resolution and thus confirmed the obvious -- men HAVE orbited the
Moon.
Concerning comet trails. Yes -- I know about directions and why. I meant only
to call to mind the pictorial impression.
Paul D
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Not a lot of true science here either Paul;.
PS Why don't Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune -- two travelling at greater
than the speed of light -- have their atmospheres blown away like a comet tail,
if space is NOT a vacuum?
1st, what planets are travelling faster than light????
2nd, a comets tail is not really a tail, like as in behind the movement. The
comets
"tail "can be in any direction, even in the direction of the motion... It
certainly is not blown away by movement through the vacuum.
Philip. ==================================================================
----- Original Message ----
From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 6 October, 2008 3:26:11 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Bible Geocentrism - The Earth is NOT Moving!!
Paul,
If you believe people in white costumes that tell you, one or more of,
Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune travel at the speed
of light or faster then you should look for
a new hypothesis of Cosmology, that is not heliocentrism.
"No man has ever ascended higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the
Earth's surface. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon."
Bernie
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