[duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup woes

  • From: "Joanmarie Diggs" <jdiggs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:38:14 -0500

Hi Peter.  Thanks for your response.  I think I'm getting confused, though,
because I don't think I should be seeing what I am seeing.  So please allow
me to try again, and if you wouldn't mind pointing out where my
understanding is failing, that would be great.

Steps to reproduce:

In SP1
1.  Configure an Index Basic D that will only be used for narrow width paper
and set the characters per line to 32
2.  Add a Romeo 25 embosser that will only be used for wide width paper and
set the characters per line to 40
3.  While the Romeo 25 is still selected in the Brailler Device list box,
examine the following two controls in the Desired Braille Document
Formatting group:
        a.  Form combo box
        b.  Characters Per Line edit box
4.  You should find that the form combo box contains wide width paper, and
the characters per line is 40.
5.  Select the index in the list box and examine the contents of the
aforementioned controls.  The form combo box contains narrow width paper,
and the characters per line is 32.

Thoughts on findings:  This behavior makes sense because the Index is using
narrow width paper and 32 characters per line and the Romeo is using wide
width paper and 40 characters per line.

In SP2
Repeat steps 1 through 4 above.  You should have the same findings.  Then:
5.  Select the index in the list box and examine the contents of the
aforementioned controls.  The form combo box contains wide width paper, and
the characters per line is 40.

Thoughts on findings:  This behavior doesn't make sense because the Index
should be using narrow width paper and 32 characters per line, yet it says
wide width paper and 40 characters per line.

I apologize for being so dense, but what am I missing?  Is this new behavior
intentional, and if so, why?

Take care.
Joanie


-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:45 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup woes

Joanie,

More correctly, whatever changes you make to the Desired Braille Document
Formatting group are applied to *none* of the embossers listed in the
listbox.  The only connection between what is listed in the listbox and what
is on the other part of the dialog is that all of these things are displayed
in the same dialog.

Adding a dialog box is not difficult, but:
  - It would need to be localized, and
  - It would need to be tested for accesibility purposes.  Anything that
pops up when a listbox selection changes is likely to cause a lot of
complaint.  We went through this during the initial beta testing of DBT 10.5

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:49 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Embosser setup woes

Hi All. 

Regarding Warren's original post:  I'm not sure if I understand the behavior
Warren described, but here is what I did observe when trying to reproduce
his findings:  If you have multiple embossers set up in the Global Embosser
Setup dialog box -- be they different models (like an Index and a Romeo) OR
different configurations (e.g. Index Narrow and Index Wide) -- *whatever*
changes you make in the Desired Braille Document Formatting group will be
applied to *all* of the embossers listed in the Brailler Device listbox.  So
when I added a Romeo and set it up for wide width paper, 40 characters per
line, my existing Index (which had been set up for narrow width paper, 32
characters per line) adopted the settings for the Romeo.  

Peter said: 
        2. This doesn't answer the question of what to do when the user
changes embossers.

That's a tough question. Every time I come up with an example where the
default settings of the new embosser should be used, I come up with another
where the settings associated with the document should be preserved and the
only thing that should change is the device producing the braille.  So....
Please excuse my ignorance of software development, but how much work would
it be to add a dialog box? I am envisioning a dialog popping up and
prompting the user to either apply the default settings of the new embosser
or preserve the settings associated with the document.

Take care.
Joanie


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