[ddots-l] Re: some opinions

  • From: "Dave Hillebrandt" <dave@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:56:07 -0400

I used to have a Casio ng380 guitar and used it to change effects via midi. It 
is the guitar from the late 80s and early 90s that has midi out and actually 
does the analog to midi onboard the guitar. It has buttons on the guitar itself 
to change patches and also changes to different effects. Worked great for me 
cause had a midi guitar processor that had all of those effects in it and just 
a press of a button switched it to anything I wanted. Of course, the draw back 
is that you have to stop playing in order to press the button where with a 
footswitch you don't have to reach down. Dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom De Rosa 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:35 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions


  Mark, I'm a guitar player and song writer and looking to go live.  Your 
comments about setting the guitar to a mid and not having to stomp on the foot 
peddles is something I would love to figure out.  
  Could you give a better idea as to how your doing this.  For example, going 
to using  corous to distortion or clean to distortion in the same song without 
looking for the stomp box? 

  Tom DeRosa
  URL www.myspace.com/tder08
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mark Burroughs 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:02 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions


    Sorry Omar. I was coming at it from a lead singer/guitarist with other band 
member's perspective.  If you are running your Motif through a board with your 
vocal; whether it is just you/or a full band, I would think that would be great.

    Rock on.

    Mark

    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Omar Binno
    Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:05 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

     

    All this can be done from within the motif, though. I had no plans for 
using any mp3's at all; only midi sequences. Perhaps I should be more specific. 
Would it be more beneficial to use a laptop and sonar on stage rather than just 
the motif to run/play the midi sequences? I tend to think that the motif alone 
should be fine, but if anyone can think of any advantages of playing the 
sequences through a laptop and sonar, with the motif only as a sound generator, 
please share.

     

    Thanks again.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Mark Burroughs 

      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:01 PM

      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

       

      Let's see.. A few random thoughts about midi vs. MP3 on stage.

      If the bass player is sick; you just unmute the bass. grin

      Or perhaps a traveling piano player wants to gig with you between shows 
at the Met. mute the piano and let him jam.

      Or maybe you realize that you are getting too old to remember the words, 
so you add some cheater lines to a track that only goes in your monitor, just 
prior to the start of each verse/chorus and when the solo should start. 

      How cool is it to set the volume and effect controls through midi for the 
guitar, so all you have to do is play and sing? Not repeatedly stomp on your 
midi control foot pedal like you are looking for your lost glass slide or 
guitar picks on the floor?

      Just try adding the four above scenarios to an MP3?

      I dunnno, Sonar's playlist makes anything possible. guffaw. Love to set 
it for five seconds between songs, so the music almost seems constant to the 
audience.  You can also do multiple midi tracks with a group of three songs 
that are similar with no break in between; to keep em dancing.

      It's always better if you can have the 9 fellow musicians to play on 
stage with you, but how realistic is that?  I did good keeping a drummer, bass 
player and a female vocalist that played acoustic together for three years. 
I've spent the last two only doing studio work, learning Sonar, and hoping I 
can get a good mix of original songs, so that I can get out of the totally 
cover song band scene.

      I agree with John that having versatility in being able to tweak your 
songs is a huge plus. 

      Good luck though with whatever works for you.  You have to feel 
comfortable with your gear and audio.  You are the one using it.

      Mark

      From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
      Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:39 PM
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

       

      Hi: The advantage to midi, if you consider it an advantage, is that you 
can edit it if you find that certain parts are too loud etc. Once you do an 
MP3, it's done. Of course, some people here use them and it's probably the best 
way to go. But midi is easier to change once you've heard it on stage. John 

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Dave Hillebrandt 

        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:21 PM

        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

         

        I can see a lot of advantages in having a laptop on stage but 
understand what you mean in regards to the pc doing all of the work. I would 
like to take that just a step further as wonder why some choose to have 
computers play drum machines and synths via midi rather than simply recording 
the parts and playing along to an mp3. I realize some do that as well but just 
wondering the advantage of using the midi verses recording parts and making an 
mp3 out of it to play with. Would think that having extra midi stuff would take 
up more room than an mp3 player if you aren't actually playing all of the 
parts. Thanks for any input as curious to hear opinions. Dave

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Steve Wicketts 

          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:05 AM

          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

           

          Hi Omar, 

          I personally don't like lap tops on stage. People see a computer and 
instantly think that the computer is doing all of the work.

           

          On all songs, I put 1 bar of drum hits or rhythm for my personal 
recognition just so I know straight away which song is set up, this way the 
audience don't suddenly hear a familiar beginning of a recognisable song.

           

          Steve W 

           

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Omar Binno 

            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:47 PM

            Subject: [ddots-l] some opinions

             

            Hello,

             

            I'm going to start gigging live soon and wanted to hear some 
thoughts. I'll be using a Motif ES6 to play midi sequences. My question is: if 
my band performs around 30 songs a night, would it be more efficient to just 
use the motif's playback capabilities to run the sequenced files, or would it 
be more beneficial to use a laptop to handle the operation?

             

            Thank you for all input.

             

             

            OMAR BINNO

             

            WEBSITE: www.bigoproductions.net
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            SKYPE: obinno1



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