[ddots-l] Re: some opinions

  • From: "John Fioravanti" <fioresq1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:40:01 -0400

Do you always use the same track numbering, how do you get the motif to always 
have you playing on the same track. I had some problems doing this. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Omar Binno 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:13 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions


  Yes I have. I've actually had no problems doing that. I just load about 25 
songs at a time in the order i plan on playing them and it's pretty much cake 
from there. It seems to me that a laptop would indeed be just extra and 
unnecessary baggage.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Fioravanti 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:10 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions


    When I played using midi, (and I actually stopped 2 years ago) I used a 
laptop. I happen to have the same motif and have messed around putting songs on 
the unit; however, a computer is simply more versatil. Are you also going to be 
using the motif live while the songs are playing? I have a sighted friend who 
does this very well. He loads songs on the motif and always plays live on track 
8. Don't think I could do that all night. Why I asked though, is because if 
you're also playing the motif and using it as a generator it would be a bit 
tricky. Good luck!    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Omar Binno 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:04 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions


      All this can be done from within the motif, though. I had no plans for 
using any mp3's at all; only midi sequences. Perhaps I should be more specific. 
Would it be more beneficial to use a laptop and sonar on stage rather than just 
the motif to run/play the midi sequences? I tend to think that the motif alone 
should be fine, but if anyone can think of any advantages of playing the 
sequences through a laptop and sonar, with the motif only as a sound generator, 
please share.

      Thanks again.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Mark Burroughs 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:01 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions


        Let's see.. A few random thoughts about midi vs. MP3 on stage.

        If the bass player is sick; you just unmute the bass. grin

        Or perhaps a traveling piano player wants to gig with you between shows 
at the Met. mute the piano and let him jam.

        Or maybe you realize that you are getting too old to remember the 
words, so you add some cheater lines to a track that only goes in your monitor, 
just prior to the start of each verse/chorus and when the solo should start. 

        How cool is it to set the volume and effect controls through midi for 
the guitar, so all you have to do is play and sing? Not repeatedly stomp on 
your midi control foot pedal like you are looking for your lost glass slide or 
guitar picks on the floor?

        Just try adding the four above scenarios to an MP3?

        I dunnno, Sonar's playlist makes anything possible. guffaw. Love to set 
it for five seconds between songs, so the music almost seems constant to the 
audience.  You can also do multiple midi tracks with a group of three songs 
that are similar with no break in between; to keep em dancing.

        It's always better if you can have the 9 fellow musicians to play on 
stage with you, but how realistic is that?  I did good keeping a drummer, bass 
player and a female vocalist that played acoustic together for three years. 
I've spent the last two only doing studio work, learning Sonar, and hoping I 
can get a good mix of original songs, so that I can get out of the totally 
cover song band scene.

        I agree with John that having versatility in being able to tweak your 
songs is a huge plus. 

        Good luck though with whatever works for you.  You have to feel 
comfortable with your gear and audio.  You are the one using it.

        Mark

        From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
        Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:39 PM
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

         

        Hi: The advantage to midi, if you consider it an advantage, is that you 
can edit it if you find that certain parts are too loud etc. Once you do an 
MP3, it's done. Of course, some people here use them and it's probably the best 
way to go. But midi is easier to change once you've heard it on stage. John 

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Dave Hillebrandt 

          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:21 PM

          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

           

          I can see a lot of advantages in having a laptop on stage but 
understand what you mean in regards to the pc doing all of the work. I would 
like to take that just a step further as wonder why some choose to have 
computers play drum machines and synths via midi rather than simply recording 
the parts and playing along to an mp3. I realize some do that as well but just 
wondering the advantage of using the midi verses recording parts and making an 
mp3 out of it to play with. Would think that having extra midi stuff would take 
up more room than an mp3 player if you aren't actually playing all of the 
parts. Thanks for any input as curious to hear opinions. Dave

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Steve Wicketts 

            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:05 AM

            Subject: [ddots-l] Re: some opinions

             

            Hi Omar, 

            I personally don't like lap tops on stage. People see a computer 
and instantly think that the computer is doing all of the work.

             

            On all songs, I put 1 bar of drum hits or rhythm for my personal 
recognition just so I know straight away which song is set up, this way the 
audience don't suddenly hear a familiar beginning of a recognisable song.

             

            Steve W 

             

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: Omar Binno 

              To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

              Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:47 PM

              Subject: [ddots-l] some opinions

               

              Hello,

               

              I'm going to start gigging live soon and wanted to hear some 
thoughts. I'll be using a Motif ES6 to play midi sequences. My question is: if 
my band performs around 30 songs a night, would it be more efficient to just 
use the motif's playback capabilities to run the sequenced files, or would it 
be more beneficial to use a laptop to handle the operation?

               

              Thank you for all input.

               

               

              OMAR BINNO

               

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