[ddots-l] Re: Purchasing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools

  • From: "Darren H" <darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 05:42:20 +0100

Hi.

I have to agree with Phil.

I can't comment about macs as I've never owned one, and probably not likely to.

My DAW is a windows XP system that was built from scratch for the sole purpose 
of music production.

I had to pay over the odds compared with your off the shelf equivalent, but I 
couldn't be happier.

It runs beautifully and fast and has only glitched up once in 12 months.

I doubt I will need to even think about replacing it for a good 4 or 5 years.

It strikes me that there's a lot of snobbery regarding DAWs.

You could have 3 people with the same amount of knowledge, experience and 
tallent using 3 different DAWs, sonar, cubase and ProTools, and I bet the end 
results would be no better than one another.

I'll be sticking with Sonar as it does exactly what I want it to do and a lot 
more that I've not yet discovered.

Cheers
Darren

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Muir 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:57 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Purchasing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


  On the other hand, if you purchase  a hi end business PC or laptop, and 
reformat it then, install the OS and applications that you actuallly want on it 
, you will get excellent results!


  Regards, Phil Muir
  Accessibility Training
  Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
  UK +44-1747-821-794
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  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of clarence griffin
  Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:14 PM
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Purchasing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


  the 1 thing that comes to mind is the difference of build quality between mac 
and p.c.. I have found that most macs are built much better that pcs that are 
priced the same. And the service you get with mac products is better as well. 
its well worth the extra doe, in my opinion. 


  GF




  On Jun 2, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:


    Right. This is why DAWs cost more than office PCs, and why Macs cost more 
than most office PCs. Though, when it comes to Macs, there are other factors 
that drive the price up, too.

    Bryan



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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of D!J!X!
    Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:35 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Purchasing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


    Yes, the problem is macs have a set hardware, which is very tightly 
monitored and tested. With pc's, every manufacturer does what they want, you've 
got various chipsets (which as a daw builder, i can tell you chipsets have more 
to do with if your system will work or not, crackle or pop, more than other 
parts like the interface or software do). And many times you get people who buy 
a "top of the line" system from a mainstream manufacturer such as dell or hp or 
gateway, and the system obviously doesn't perform as well because it wasn't 
built as a daw, not that macs are, but because of the tight grip on the 
hardware used apple can ensure that the components all work together and work 
good. PC manufacturers are usually trying to get the parts that are cheapest 
for them to get  so that they can keep the price low and sell you the system. 
That's why most good daws are about a gran or higher, because you can't cut 
corners when it comes to good performance. Given the right hardware and the 
right configuration, i think a pc can perform just as well as the a mac could. 
Of course there are always factors like software and drivers, but again, 
getting the right combination will yield excellent results!

    D!J!X!


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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Omar Binno
    Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:51 AM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Purchasing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


    I think that today, pro tools and mac are over-rated. PCs have great 
hardware and equivalent processors to mac. I use an RME Audio Interface, and my 
friend uses pro tools digidesign. he loves the sound produced from the RME way 
more than his digidesign and wishes he could use it with his pro tools. I think 
that pcs and macs are comporable today.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Brandon Keith
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:47 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Purchasing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


      But you do have the exhalent warranty on Apple computers (you can just 
bring them to the store), the actual hardware is way better than most PCs and 
around where I live, if you don't have a Mac with Pro Tools you probably can't 
get any kind of credits for recording in college.
      Annabelle can you elaborate on how it didn't work? Was the processor 
slow, was it hard to get around or what made it not optimal for your use? And 
did you have both Mac and Windows on the same computer?
      Thanks

      Brandon Keith

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      From: Omar Binno
      Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:25 AM
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Purchassing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


      Agreed, Phil. Also, don't forget the headache involved of learning all 
new recording software, and the potential money you'd have to spend on possibly 
getting some training for it; not to mention the probability that companies 
like Freedom Scientific are far better apt to suit the needs of blind clients 
than Apple or Microsoft.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Phil Muir
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:44 AM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Purchassing A Hi End MAC For Pro Tools


        Hi all.  I know that some of you were commenting that if you purchase a 
MAC
        then, you won't need to spend $1000 on a screen reader like Jaws.  
However,
        keep in mind that when you do purchase that hi end mac that will be 
required
        to run Pro Tools over a PC then, it's probably going to cost you
        significanly more than $1000 that you would have paid out for your 
Windows
        screen reader.  Just a thought.

        Also, looked at voiceover recently and although the speech sounds good, 
it
        was half announcing words when reading E-mail.  Annoying to say the 
least.

         
        Regards, Phil Muir
        Accessibility Training
        Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
        UK +44-1747-821-794
        Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
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        info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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        http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/

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