David, narrowing the key pad from its present size could be a problem for some and especially in that you would destroy the relationship between the keys which are not reasonably equal distance between the up and down and the right to left axis. I won't go so far as to say that all our research supports this, but there is a trend. In addition, I wonder if changing one dimension without changing the other one would make it difficult for those who use the key pad as a braille keyboard. Just a thought. Neal -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Allen Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:59 PM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: New Bookport ideas Hi Neal and list: Have you found this to be true when proxemity is narrowed as well? I believe making a unit any smaller will result in it being more easily lost, which is hardly a gain. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:24 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: New Bookport ideas >I think you will have a really hard time making the keys smaller. The >testing we have done at Trace for various phone projects, A T M >machines and other products I can't mention has lead us to believe >that you start leaving out vast segments of the older population plus >a number of other people when you make the keys too small to use. As >it is now, the keys are just about the dimensions of a standard >telephone, plus or minus. Well, and what is a standard telephone these >days anyway, so perhaps that is not a good example. But I would >caution against making them any smaller than they are now. > > Neal > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:15 PM > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bookport] Re: New Bookport ideas > > > What about keeping the keys the same size, but just moving them a > touch closer together? My preference would be for much smaller keys > much closer together, but I agree this would be a problem to people > without the finger > dexterity or precision. > Bruce > > -- > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave > the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV > > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx > Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): > http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: > http://www.cornergas.com > > On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Russ & Valerie wrote: > >> I agree that smaller keys will be a challenge for some. >> >> My aunt is using a BP, and she can just manage the buttons as she is >> a > >> bit >> frail and her fingers not always steady. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Smith" <walt@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, 23 April, 2006 11 21 >> Subject: [bookport] Re: New Bookport ideas >> >> >>> A BP with smaller keys might be okay, but I do wonder about the >>> elderly or multi-handicapped user's ability to manipulate something >>> that would enable a design of the size you mention here--a >>> cigarette pack. While I don't know this to have been the case when >>> the original device was designed, the present keypad certainly >>> looks > >>> as if this section of the potential market was considered. I know >>> from experience and observation that many elderly users just can't >>> cope very well with buttons the size most of us find usable. Since >>> NLS, from what I gather, isn't planning to produce a truly portable >>> player when they move to digital Talking Books, I can imagine APH >>> wanting to fill this gap, provided they can work with NLS to get the > >>> necessary permissions and work out the technology, so these folks >>> would absolutely have to be taken into account in any design >>> considerations. >>> >>> I think that on balance, I also like the idea of moving to SD cards >>> from CompactFlash, particularly if industry forecasts indicate that >>> even higher-capacity SD cards may be forthcoming in the future and >>> if NLS decides to move in that direction. Right now, 4 gig is the >>> largest available size and if APH succeeds in removing all card >>> size > >>> limitations, I can see that some folks may very well want to buy >>> even larger-capacity cards. My sole concern about using SD cards is >>> their relative fragility when compared to CompactFlash--I just see >>> them as being too easy to damage or lose. CompactFlash is certainly >>> going to continue to be around for a long, long time, given the >>> number of devices that are dependent on them, but using SD would >>> certainly aid in designing a smaller player. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tanner" >>> <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:20 PM >>> Subject: [bookport] Re: New Bookport ideas >>> >>> >>> It's size is about half to two thirds an inch thick, about 2 inches >>> wide, and about 5 inches high. I am guessing it would need to be a >>> bit larger than this unit in order to have decent size keys, but it >>> would be nice if the BP could be a bit smaller; say the size of a >>> cigarette pack. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: >>> 4/22/2006 >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >