Thank you, Sarah, what a very nice message you have sent. I will follow these tips and see if I think things work out better. I am so glad you all don't think I'm dumb, smile! I guess I want it to be right the first time, and when it isn't I get frustrated with myself. Patti Me and my guide dog; He does a good job, He keeps me safe So life is just great For me and my guide dog.