[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question about a book

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In our defense there might be a reason why most users don't use the feature.
Like you, I wondered why it wasn't used so I tried leaving one myself. All the
reviews go through an approval process. By the time mine was approved, it was
weeks, maybe even months. Either way, by that point I had nearly forgotten
about it. Considering how otherwise fast the responses are for book requests
and quality reports and such, I assumed approving the reviews wasn't looked at
that much. Maybe it goes back to they're not being many reviewss in the first
place
I could be wrong though. Still may be somethin should be done to encourage more
reviews. g

On Jul 23, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender
"rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Let me add this. If you have a strong opinion about the content of a book,
its appropriateness, its appropriateness or inappropriateness for certain
groups of people or other opinions, remember that these opinions are just
that, opinions, and Bookshare provides a place for you to express your
opinions. On the metadata page for each and every book in the collection near
the bottom of the page is a link to click that takes you to a page where you
may write a review. For whatever reason it seems that most users ignore this.
But it is there. It is there and anyone who looks at the metadata page can
read the opinions expressed in the reviews that are posted there. So post
your reviews and express yourselves!

On 7/23/2015 2:36 PM, Madeleine Linares wrote:
Hi everyone,

Thank you all for your comments about adult content.

Here's how we handle it at Bookshare: if anyone can walk into their local
library and find the book on the shelves, don't mark it adult content. DO
make a note in the synopsis about the content! That's the perfect place to
inform the reader of what he or she can expect. If you come across something
that you think is adult content but aren't sure, email me
(volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)!

I know this won't please every single person but it's our current policy and
we request you to respect it. If you have any other questions, comments, or
concerns about adult content, please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Madeleine Linares
Volunteer Coordinator
Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
650-644-3459
volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



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Anne, I didn't say a thing about not having a warning label. As a matter of
fact, I said to put it in the synopsis. I certainly agree that the more
information one has to base one's decisions about reading choices the
better. I also have nothing against a book that was written for adults with
an adult audience in mind being labeled as adult. Bookshare does not have an
adult category, but if one is added then that would be welcome. However, it
effectively already exists in that there is a children's category and that,
not withstanding miscategorized books, it can be assumed that if a book is
not listed under the children's category then it must be for adults. The
problem is with the adult check box that one finds when submitting a book.
If it is checked then anyone under the age of eighteen cannot download it
and does not even see it on the site if they are browsing or searching for
something. That is flat out censorship. As for some people under a certain
age not understand
in
g certain subject matter, So what? What do you do when you find yourself
reading something that you do not understand? I suspect that you quit
reading it. That's what I do. There have been some exceptions though.
When I was in college I found that I did not understand organic chemistry.
It would have been nice if I had been able to just skip the classes in that
subject and stop reading the material that was required reading for those
classes, but if I wanted to complete my degree in biology I did not have the
option of skipping it. Somehow I even managed to pass my organic chemistry
classes, but I still don't think I understand the subject very well. Did it
do me any harm to read organic chemistry textbooks? Not a bit. At most it
may have wasted some of my time and caused me some frustration, but I still
weathered it quite well. Other than a scenario like that, though, when
someone finds him or herself reading material that he or she does not
understand the usual outcome is that he or she stops reading it and finds
something else to read that is understandable. So what's the problem? The
big problem that I see is that some people who have had their sexuality
warped and have grown up
w
ith unwarranted repressions try to dictatorially insist that everyone else
have their sexuality warped in the same way. They insist on it to the degree
of censorship and repression. I am all for anyone having whatever sexual
attitudes they might want or feel comfortable with, but I sure do have a
problem with them when they insist on imposing those attitudes on others. If
parents want to be involved in guiding their children in reading choices
then that is okay too, but guidance is one thing and having other people
impose a ban on certain reading material unless the parent makes an active
effort to counteract such a ban is another thing.

On 7/23/2015 7:07 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

Now Roger, I agree that nothing should be censored but I think that
there is some material that needs to have a warning label on it. As
has been said before, if you can find it on a book shelf in an open
aisle in a store, it's probably not Adult Content. However, some books
which have explicit descriptions of aberrant sex, violence, and are
considered to be soft porn, should be labeled as Adult Content. Some
LGBT lit might be labeled Adult content, not because I have anything
against the LGBT community, but because kids under say sixteen,
depending on the kid, probably have no understanding of or interest in
such things. I do understand that the restriction can be lifted for a
given child if a teacher or parent agrees. this, I feel is a good
thing because it implies that the child will be reading the book under
supervision. This is necessary for some material, I think. I'm not
saying kids shouldn't read such stuff, but that they should do so with
the knowledge of an adult who can explain, discuss, and answer
questions about a given book.

I don't thing there are too many books in the Bookshare collection
which would be considered Adult Content. This is, of course a
subjective categorization. If 'twere me, I'd be very careful as to
what I labeled as Adult Content. If in doubt, check with us. Some of
us have been reading a good, long time, and are familiar with many
authors.

As Tom Lehr said, "To be smut it must be ut-terly without redeeming
social importance ..."

Ann P.

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