[bksvol-discuss] Re: Essays and copyright - Ideas and Beliefs of the Victorians -- need Claire's finding
- From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:29:46 -0500 (EST)
OK, will do.
Tracy
> Yes, the info seems a convoluted British early 60s way to proclaim
> copyright ownership. Definitely do not reject it. Rather, keep on to it
> until Tuesday, which is when Claire will be back to the office and can
> give a final finding on the matter.
>
> G.
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> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
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> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
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> So Guido, are you saying this book is good, and I shouldn't reject it?
> Carrie Karnos said the opposite. Now I'm confused. I'll hold on to it a
> bit longer. Unless someone else, with KES, is willing to take it on.
> I'm opposed to the "release and leave it to someone else" method, but, if
> someone else really wants it, I'll put it back on Step 1.
> Tracy
>
>> Some older British pressings did not use the copyright symbol, nor the
>> copyright word. But the words "all rights reserved" or equivalent are
>> dead giveaway of the existance of the copyright. The year is that of
>> publication, and the owner is assumed to be the publisher.
>>
>> G.
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>> Guido Dante Corona
>> IBM Research,
>> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
>> Austin Tx.
>> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
>> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
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>> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
>> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
>> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
>> [David Poyer, The Command]
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>> Maybe, but I've seen the copyright symbol in many, many other books.
>> Since I don't have the print copy, I'll never know what's there, or not,
>> if it doesn't show in the RTF file.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> I think that Guido is saying that there may be a copyright symbol in
> the
>>> book; often that symbol does not read with speech.
>>>
>>> Both my husband, Mike, and I had problems with this symbol when we
> began
>>> validating.
>>>
>>> Cat Lover Lori
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:41 AM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Essays and copyright - Ideas and Beliefs
>> of
>>> the Victorians -- need Claire's finding
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>>>> Guido, I concur. It sort of looks like a copyright, but it doesn't
> say
>>>> so.
>>>> I haven't rejected it yet, but I don't yet see how I can do otherwise.
>>>> Lots of books say "published by so-and-so", and that's not the
>> copyright
>>>> at all.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> This is a toughy, and may require visual examination of the book
>> and/or
>>>>> a
>>>>> decision by Claire. I suspect copyright is by E. P. Dutton in 1966
>>>>> After
>>>>> all, who else's Rights are All Reserved?
>>>>>
>>>>> "First published 1966 by E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc.
>>>>> All rights reserved."
>>>>>
>>>>> The above looks like a copyright statement in old-fashioned disguise
>> to
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guido
>>>>>
>>>>> Guido Dante Corona
>>>>> IBM Research,
>>>>> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
>>>>> Austin Tx.
>>>>> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
>>>>> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>>>>>
>>>>> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
>>>>> who
>>>>> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
>>>>> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
>>>>> wise."
>>>>> [David Poyer, The Command]
>>>>>
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>>>>> Unless I am advised otherwise, tomorrow I will reject "Ideas and
>>>>> Beliefs
>>>>> of the Victorians" for lack of copyright. I will paste the most
>>>>> pertinent
>>>>> info from the title page at the end of this message, but none of it
>>>>> says
>>>>> anything about copyright. It's a collection of essays, many of which
>>>>> are
>>>>> quite old, but I still think the book needs a copyright. Right?
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This paperback edition of
>>>>> "IDEAS AND BELIEFS OF THE VICTORIANS"
>>>>> First published 1966 by E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc.
>>>>> All rights reserved. Printed in the U.S.A.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reprinted by special arrangement with the British
>>>>> Broadcasting Corporation and the individual contributors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Published simultaneously in Canada by Clarke,
>>>>> Irwin and Company Limited, Toronto and Vancouver.
>>>>>
>>>>> IDEAS AND BELIEFS OF THE VICTORIANS was first published in 1949.
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