Uh, Oh. Does this mean that one should put chapter titles flush left and on two lines, with a blank line between it and the text, no matter what the book does? And how many spaces below the page break and page number? What happens to a chapter title that is 4 spaces down from the page break and centered on the page, and in a different font from the text. I understand that in at least one book I validated the chapter titles were still there. I've been following the style of the book, usually. Should I change? Cindy -- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It is preferable to separate the chapter title on > two lines and leave a > blank line below it. This will overcome a temporary > flaw in the stripper, > but would enable a future smarter version to create > appropriate tags. > If the chapter title is on the line immediately > above body text, no > future smart stripper is likely to be able to deal > with it appropriately. > It is important that our work does not jeopardize > future Bookshare > implementations. > > G. > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. > Research Division, > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > > "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 06/06/2005 11:49 AM > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss > > > To > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Confused! > > > > > > > Hi, Lea! In addition to Guido's suggestions, > because some of us have > found that the over-zealous stripper has eaten our > chapter titles, some of > us prefer to leave no blank line between the chapter > title and the first > line of text. Separating the title into two lines > also works, though, so > either option is okay. Take care! > > Jana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Guido Corona > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:54 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Confused! > > > By chapter header I mean the grand title at the > beginning of each chapter, > which should be kept, at the top of the page, > followed by at least one > blank line. > You may want two split the chapter header on two > consecutive lines. E.g.: > > > CHAPTER > ONE > > Occurrences of any chapter title in subsequent page > headers should be > stripped. > > Guido > > > Guido Dante Corona > IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. > Research Division, > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 06/06/2005 09:13 AM > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss > > > > To > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > > Subject > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Confused! > > > > > > > > > Hi, > Thanks for this info, so far. I am currently working > on a novel and as I'm over half way through it, I > think I may leave the page numbers off on this one. > I > can certainly see the benefit to having them on a > scholarly text. > > By 'chapter header' - do you mean the chapter title > that starts the chapter - or the chapter name that > appears in the corners of every page on some books? > I'm definitely making sure that the first page of > each > chapter has the chapter number and name before the > beginning of that chapter's text, but I've been > removing it from the top of every page, as I've been > doing with page numbers. > > Lea > > --- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Chapter headers are very important. The lucky > thing > > is that there are not > > so many of them. > > Page numbers would be nice, but are not as > > important, at least for > > novels. > > For scholarly materials they are much more > > important. > > If you put in page numbers, put them on the very > > first line of the page, > > by themselves, left justified, then leave a > blank > > line below. > > Or at the very bottom of a page, left justified, > by > > themselves, preceeded > > by a blank line. > > Page numbers will then be included in the Daisy > page > > tag by the Bookshare > > system. Although they look as if they have been > > stripped, they will > > still be in the file and referenceable/searchable > by > > any Daisy reader. > > > > Future modifications to the Bookshare system may > > create more flexible > > rendering of page numbers. But policy is, as much > > as possible, to leave > > page numbers intact and normalize their appearance > > at the top or bottom of > > pages as described above. > > > > Guido > > > > > > Guido Dante Corona > > IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. > > Research Division, > > Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > > > > > > > Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 06/06/2005 08:44 AM > > Please respond to > > bksvol-discuss > > > > > > To > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > cc > > > > Subject > > [bksvol-discuss] Confused! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > I'm relatively new to volunteering at Bookshare, > and > > I'm only doing > > validation as I don't have a scanner. > > > > I've started getting hard-copies from the local > > library when validating in > > order to clean up the many typos/dropped words > that > > I'm finding with the > > books I'm validating. I'm also only validating > > txt/rtf files because I am > > sighted and don't have any text-readers/braille > > software. > > > > Now - here is my confusion. I was catching up on > my > > mailing-lists and > > noticed there was several long discussions about > > chapter headers, page > > breaks and page numbers. After reading this stuff > > I'm afraid I've made a > > horrible mistake in a book or two that I've > > validated and submitted. > > > > I've basically been stripping out all chapter > > headers, page numbers and - > > *gulp* - page breaks, because that is always how > > I've put together scanned > > books in the past for my husband to read (he uses > > Jaws and then just opens > > up the books as text files). This was obviously > very > > ignorant of me. > > > > I'm currently working on a book, which I've gone > > back and added the page > > breaks. Do I also need to add the page numbers and > > chapter headers? 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