[bksvol-discuss] Re: Confused!

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:09:23 -0500

It is preferable to separate the chapter title on two lines and leave a 
blank line below it.  This will overcome a temporary flaw in the stripper, 
 but would enable a future smarter version to create appropriate tags.
If the chapter title is on the line immediately above body text,  no 
future smart stripper is likely to be able to deal with it appropriately.
It is important that our work does not jeopardize future Bookshare 
implementations.

G.


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able




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Hi, Lea!  In addition to Guido's suggestions, because some of us have 
found that the over-zealous stripper has eaten our chapter titles, some of 
us prefer to leave no blank line between the chapter title and the first 
line of text.  Separating the title into two lines also works, though, so 
either option is okay.  Take care!
 
Jana
 
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From: Guido Corona 
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By chapter header I mean the grand title at the beginning of each chapter, 
 which should be kept,  at the top of the page,  followed by at least one 
blank line.   
You may want two split the chapter header on two consecutive lines.  E.g.: 


CHAPTER 
ONE 

Occurrences of any chapter title in subsequent page headers should be 
stripped. 

Guido 


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able



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Hi,
Thanks for this info, so far. I am currently working
on a novel and as I'm over half way through it, I
think I may leave the page numbers off on this one. I
can certainly see the benefit to having them on a
scholarly  text.

By 'chapter header' - do you mean the chapter title
that starts the chapter - or the chapter name that
appears in the corners of every page on some books?
I'm definitely making sure that the first page of each
chapter has the chapter number and name before the
beginning of that chapter's text, but I've been
removing it from the top of every page, as I've been
doing with page numbers.

Lea

--- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Chapter headers are very important.  The lucky thing
> is that there are not 
> so many of them.
> Page numbers would be nice,  but are not as
> important, at least for 
> novels.
> For scholarly materials they are much more
> important.
> If you put in page numbers,  put them on the very
> first line of the page, 
> by themselves,  left justified,  then leave a blank
> line below.
> Or at the very bottom of a page, left justified, by
> themselves, preceeded 
> by a blank line.
> Page numbers will then be included in the Daisy page
> tag by the Bookshare 
> system.  Although they look as if they have been
> stripped,  they will 
> still be in the file and referenceable/searchable by
> any Daisy reader.
> 
> Future modifications to the Bookshare system may
> create more flexible 
> rendering of page numbers.  But policy is, as much
> as possible,  to leave 
> page numbers intact and normalize their appearance
> at the top or bottom of 
> pages as described above.
> 
> Guido
> 
> 
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
> Research Division,
> Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able
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> Hi,
> I'm relatively new to volunteering at Bookshare, and
> I'm only doing 
> validation as I don't have a scanner. 
> 
> I've started getting hard-copies from the local
> library when validating in 
> order to clean up the many typos/dropped words that
> I'm finding with the 
> books I'm validating. I'm also only validating
> txt/rtf files because I am 
> sighted and don't have any text-readers/braille
> software.
> 
> Now - here is my confusion. I was catching up on my
> mailing-lists and 
> noticed there was several long discussions about
> chapter headers, page 
> breaks and page numbers. After reading this stuff
> I'm afraid I've made a 
> horrible mistake in a book or two that I've
> validated and submitted. 
> 
> I've basically been stripping out all chapter
> headers, page numbers and - 
> *gulp* - page breaks, because that is always how
> I've put together scanned 
> books in the past for my husband to read (he uses
> Jaws and then just opens 
> up the books as text files). This was obviously very
> ignorant of me. 
> 
> I'm currently working on a book, which I've gone
> back and added the page 
> breaks. Do I also need to add the page numbers and
> chapter headers? Is 
> this an absolute necessity?
> 
> Help!
> 
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