I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see that so many of you are so embedded in the system that you cannot see how utterly corrupt it is. To vote for any of the current parties is like being offered the vote between torturing children in public and torturing children in private. Please vote for your preferred option. But please sir, I don't want to torture children at all. Bloody well vote for one of the other or stop whinging. NO SIR, I will not vote for torturing children any which way. I will speak against you, I will decry you, I will do anything in my power to stop you, but I will NEVER vote for torturing children. This might seem an extreme example and I already know that some of you cannot think conceptually enough to work out the analogy, but it is valid. This is what you are telling me I must do when you tell me I must vote for one imbecillic and corrupt sell-out or another. Also don't try to tell me that I must sign up for one group of torturers or another, and infiltrate to change them from within. As the requirement to get into any kind of position where I have the power to change anything in those fundamentally corrupt and cruel organisations is that I torture children, that is also not a possible course of action. And believe it or not, I have tried. The system is wrong. The system is corrupt. The system is not just amoral, it is immoral. I will not be forced to conform to a flawed, corrupt and immoral system. End of story. Have I made my point? English is such a poor tool when it is being used from outside the prevailing cultural paradigm, so I know some of you can never, by definition, comprehend the words I say, even though they are such ordinary words. Christine On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Terry Dowling < Terrence.Dowling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Which brings me back to where I started. It seems 99.99% of the population > don’t know where the preferences are going and the govt won’t allow those > of us who do care to simplify the process with the 1, 2, 9, 9, 9, 9, > process.**** > > ** ** > > And I agree that if you don’t vote, don’t whinge. A bit like if you’re not > prepared to donate organs, you shouldn’t receive them.**** > > ** ** > > Terry**** > > ** ** > > **** > > *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Peter Roberts > *Sent:* Thursday, 16 August 2012 2:42 PM > *To:* austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* atw: Re: OT: Grumbling About Elections...**** > > ** ** > > You can see the preferences for each party on the electoral commission web > site. I understand that the parties are required to register them some > reasonable time ahead of the election. I looked for the last election and > was so shocked by what was registered for the major parties that I resolved > never to vote above the line again.**** > > **** > > Peter R.**** > > On 16 August 2012 16:35, James Hunt <writerlyjames@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:**** > > > A few people number their Senate ballots from 1 to a zillion below the > line, but in the booths where I worked (near Monash University, and later > in South Brisbane), hardly anybody ever got it right. Duplicates and > missing numbers were common. > > Preference deals are something for the parties to negotiate and publicise. > I recall - vaguely - an Electoral Commission handbook detailing Senate > preference schemes, which was issued to polling booths. A few people - > about three in twenty-odd years - did want to see it. > > > **** > > ** ** > -- Christine