At the last election I did my usual thing of voting below the line for the Senate election. I start at both ends, and hope they meet in the middle with no errors. Last time, I somehow mucked it up, so took my ballot slip back to the desk and asked for another one. This is exactly what the adverts leading up to the election told you to do. Well, it was like asking for a bar of gold. I had to stand my ground and insist on a new paper (which I got) but it was hard going. I used to help my mother fill in the forms (she was blind) and she voted below the line too. I seemed to spend ages in the booth filling in ballots, but there is something inherently satisfying about putting some people/parties at the bottom! Cheers Kath From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kent, Christine Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012 1:46 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: OT: WARNING: Recruiter advertisements are ONLY trawling for resumes for tender responses! The amazing thing is that in the senate votes, virtually no-one knows where the preferences go if you put the ‘1’ for the party above the line. At the last two elections I’ve asked the booth staff and all of the folk handing out how-to-votes. Nobody knew and the only people who were able to rummage out the info were the Greens. Get-Up actually did provide information on this an election or two back – they made a big thing of it. Easy answer for both upper and lower house is to number the whole damn lot yourself. I always do that just to make sure the parties cannot do corrupt deals to determine where my vote goes – not that my one vote matters much but one can always hope the idea goes into the group mind. I also understand that preferences only flow down 3 levels, so if you have 5 or 6 on your card, I don’t recall exactly, you can number those you know have no chance whatever of winning as 1, 2 and 3, and after that, your vote is tossed – doesn’t actually make logical sense, but one can live in hope that it works that way. Does anyone know if it still works this way? Williamstown was a great electorate for this. Their right wing candidate was the labor candidate and everyone else – and there were usually lot, were further left than labor (not hard these days). You knew the labor candidate was going to win so you picked any other three as 1, 2, 3 etc – with the labor candidate the last preference. So, it is now unlawful to vote with clear intention, but you can vote the lazy way and not know who’s getting your vote. Great!! (where’s that new sarcastic font?) Cheers, Terry