Terry, When I worked at a polling booth - once in about 1986 - preferences were counted AS FAR AS NEEDED. This meant that they could be used well past the first three. >not that my one vote matters much< Your one vote does count - Coogee in a NSW state by-election in about 1973 where the final result was almost a tie with candidate A getting ONE MORE vote. There was a recount and candidate B got one more vote. Then there was an all-in state election. - Spain had a general election and the winning party won by one seat AND the last seat counted was won by one vote! I usually vote using the preferential system 1 - Sun Ripened Warm Tomato Party (yes, that was a genuine party in the ACT) or Ivor F (Spelling Reform Party in NSW Senate) or Lets Have A Party or similar crazy party who I want to get into at least double figures so the major parties will notice them. 2 - vote for the major party of my choice. So much fun and, worryingly, so few people understand how it all works. Just look at us lot. Bob T On 16 August 2012 14:48, Kath Bowman <Kath.Bowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At the last election I did my usual thing of voting below the line for the > Senate election. I start at both ends, and hope they meet in the middle > with no errors. Last time, I somehow mucked it up, so took my ballot slip > back to the desk and asked for another one. This is exactly what the > adverts leading up to the election told you to do. Well, it was like asking > for a bar of gold. I had to stand my ground and insist on a new paper > (which I got) but it was hard going. **** > > I used to help my mother fill in the forms (she was blind) and she voted > below the line too. I seemed to spend ages in the booth filling in ballots, > but there is something inherently satisfying about putting some > people/parties at the bottom!**** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Kath **** > > ** ** > > *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Kent, Christine > *Sent:* Thursday, 16 August 2012 1:46 PM > *To:* austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* atw: Re: OT: WARNING: Recruiter advertisements are ONLY > trawling for resumes for tender responses!**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > The amazing thing is that in the senate votes, virtually no-one knows > where the preferences go if you put the ‘1’ for the party above the line. > At the last two elections I’ve asked the booth staff and all of the folk > handing out how-to-votes. Nobody knew and the only people who were able to > rummage out the info were the Greens. **** > > ** ** > > Get-Up actually did provide information on this an election or two back – > they made a big thing of it. **** > > ** ** > > Easy answer for both upper and lower house is to number the whole damn lot > yourself. I always do that just to make sure the parties cannot do corrupt > deals to determine where my vote goes – not that my one vote matters much > but one can always hope the idea goes into the group mind.**** > > ** ** > > I also understand that preferences only flow down 3 levels, so if you have > 5 or 6 on your card, I don’t recall exactly, you can number those you know > have no chance whatever of winning as 1, 2 and 3, and after that, your vote > is tossed – doesn’t actually make logical sense, but one can live in hope > that it works that way. Does anyone know if it still works this way?**** > > ** ** > > Williamstown was a great electorate for this. Their right wing candidate > was the labor candidate and everyone else – and there were usually lot, > were further left than labor (not hard these days). You knew the labor > candidate was going to win so you picked any other three as 1, 2, 3 etc – > with the labor candidate the last preference.**** > > ** ** > > So, it is now unlawful to vote with clear intention, but you can vote the > lazy way and not know who’s getting your vote. Great!! (where’s that new > sarcastic font?)**** > > ** ** > > Cheers,**** > > Terry**** > -- Bob Trussler