Hi James, That was the odd thing. I did take back my spoiled ballot paper. I think the official was just lazy and did not want to do the process. Cheers Kath From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Hunt Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012 4:06 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: OT: Grumbling About Elections... I worked on a lot of elections over the years, Doing My Bit for Democracy, and some of the observations here surprise me. The story about the spoiled ballot paper indicates a failure of procedure. If you spoil a ballot paper, you can get another one, but you have to hand the spoiled one back. You don't have to explain anything: the electoral officer cannot query your reasons for requesting a new paper, and has no discretion about replacing it. The spoiled ballot paper is marked "Spoiled" and placed in the spoiled ballots envelope. At the end of the day, every ballot paper, including spoils, must be accounted for. In my experience, there were rare occasions when people would spoil a ballot paper, tear it up and throw it in a bin, and then go to the desk to demand a fresh one. They were always refused, until they brought the spoiled paper back to the desk. If this procedure were not followed, then the tally sheets would not balance, the integrity of the booth results would be compromised, and all the electoral officers would have to ferret through the bins until the missing paper(s) were found - usually very late at night. (Do you know how much paper an election generates? It's amazing...) If you ever have a problem, don't argue with a desk officer: go straight to the Officer in Charge. The OiCs are much more knowledgeable than the desk officers, who usually have only a few hours' online training and little experience. (And if you turn up at 8AM, you will find that they have no experience!) A few people number their Senate ballots from 1 to a zillion below the line, but in the booths where I worked (near Monash University, and later in South Brisbane), hardly anybody ever got it right. Duplicates and missing numbers were common. Preference deals are something for the parties to negotiate and publicise. I recall - vaguely - an Electoral Commission handbook detailing Senate preference schemes, which was issued to polling booths. A few people - about three in twenty-odd years - did want to see it. JH ==========