Which brings me back to where I started. It seems 99.99% of the population don't know where the preferences are going and the govt won't allow those of us who do care to simplify the process with the 1, 2, 9, 9, 9, 9, process. And I agree that if you don't vote, don't whinge. A bit like if you're not prepared to donate organs, you shouldn't receive them. Terry From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Roberts Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012 2:42 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: OT: Grumbling About Elections... You can see the preferences for each party on the electoral commission web site. I understand that the parties are required to register them some reasonable time ahead of the election. I looked for the last election and was so shocked by what was registered for the major parties that I resolved never to vote above the line again. Peter R. On 16 August 2012 16:35, James Hunt <writerlyjames@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: A few people number their Senate ballots from 1 to a zillion below the line, but in the booths where I worked (near Monash University, and later in South Brisbane), hardly anybody ever got it right. Duplicates and missing numbers were common. Preference deals are something for the parties to negotiate and publicise. I recall - vaguely - an Electoral Commission handbook detailing Senate preference schemes, which was issued to polling booths. A few people - about three in twenty-odd years - did want to see it.