[AR] Re: SpaceX

  • From: John Schilling <John.Schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 12:04:17 -0700

I know of one case where that happened in a western system, and isn't being used as a face-saving excuse. Honest mistake under trying circumstances, and the people responsible have been privately rather than publicly shamed.

Lesson hopefully learned: Do a sponge count, already. If your techs need to use "rags" on flight hardware, a tray with Exactly N Standard Rags goes inside the cordon, and when you're done a tray with Exactly N Standard Rags (unfolded, so you can see nobody tore off a corner to use in a tight spot) comes out. Counted with an eyewitness.

Same with zip ties, strips of duct tape, etc. Yes, I know you don't know in advance how much duct tape you're going to use. Guessing high and throwing out the excess almost every time, is cheaper than an exploding rocket the one time.

Also, if you can figure out how to make your rags etc propellant-soluble, that would be nice. We've identified a few candidates for the usual hypergols, but none that are soluble in both fuel and oxidizer.

        John Schilling
        john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        (661) 718-0955

On 9/10/2016 11:21 AM, Chris Jones wrote:

On 09/10/16 1:41 PM, William Claybaugh wrote:
George:

Occam's razor: the Russians in the past decade have had a lot of
problems that they concluded we due to a rag left in the tank....

It's certainly a possibility, but it's worth noting that "rag left in
the tank" and "engine ingested debris from dirty propellant" have been
the default excuses for launcher failures for a very long time in the
Soviet/Russian programs.  Certain senior figures in this program
(Glushko and Chertok come to mind) expressed skepticism at the purported
number of such incidents.






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