[AR] Re: Rocket Labs

  • From: Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 18:20:25 -0400

There is no difference between the manufacturer of the hardware and the
operator of it when the vehicles are expendable.

Bill

Sent from my Commodore 64

On Sep 16, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Pierce Nichols <piercenichols@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The airline industry has made net profits of approximately zero... but the
commercial aircraft industry has made a considerable sum of money in the same
period.

-p

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ken:

In a century, the airline industry has accumulate net profits of zero.

The same economic effects are and will continue to be true of the space
transportation business. Backing from smart and wealthy individuals and
funds does not make it a good idea.

They will ultimately fail to achieve profitability, just like every other
organization in the industry. They will so do for economic reasons that have
nothing to do with their technology or their brainpower or their wealth.

Bill



Sent from my Commodore 64

On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:39 AM, KEN BIBA <kenbiba@xxxxxx> wrote:

Guys:

Thanks for the mockery … sounds like a TRA list!

The question was honestly asked .. I am not a liquid motor specialist … and
was genuinely curious about whether their approach of 3D printing the motor
introduced even more risk.

As everyone has suggested - of course it is risky … part of the reason it
is fun after all.

I do think this is one of the more interesting small payload rockets I have
seen … and hopefully with near term actual results.

K

On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:12 PM, Florin Mingireanu
<florin.mingireanu82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, that rocket engine would be Estes 1/4A3-3T :-)

On the serious note:
Rocketry and aerospace in general involves indeed a great amount of risk.



On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Anthony Cesaroni <acesaroni@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Can anyone on the list cite one rocket engine, including all the ones
considered "proven and successful" that don't have any inherent,
"technological' risks?

None come to mind. :-)

Best.

Anthony J. Cesaroni
President/CEO
Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
http://www.cesaronitech.com/
(941) 360-3100 x101 Sarasota
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto

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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:31 PM
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Subject: [AR] Re: Rocket Labs

Thanks folks. Anyone have opinions about the technology risks of their
motor? Seems to me to be the big issue.

K

On Sep 15, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Ed LeBouthillier <codemonky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Anyone here have opinions or information about Rocket Labs and their
LEO
launch system?

What I find particularly intriguing is that their two major venture
investors are quality Silicon Valley VCs - Bessemer and Khosla Ventures.

I don't have anything profound to add, but I agree that their hardware
is
pretty.

One thing that will be interesting is how they're set up to deal with
possible multiple failures early in their launch program. Obviously,
Musk/SpaceX had 3 failures in a row with their Falcon 1.

Their website says a first launch "...planned for 2015..." and it's
already getting late in the year. They have a flight plan which includes
preliminary launches in Q3 and Q4 of 2016.

I certainly like their "spunk." This is a tough business when you don't
have deep pockets. I wish them the best. None of this is easy.





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