Hi Saqib, Why not? I have used these for years, since the Fuji Lifebooks came out, and mine has a lovely keyboard, and I use it for hours on the train. I wouldn't like a big laptop on a train, especially if you can't get a table seat, and have to use that silly pull down tray. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: Tuesday 26 August 2008 19:36 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs I think the reason for people still going for laptops is because they can handle more rigorous usage. I personally wouldn't want to use a Ultra Laptop for no more than 2 hours at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > Hi Steve - This sounds a good way to go for portability then, why are > people > still going for laptops I wonder? - > > Andy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:33 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > > > | Hi Andy, > | > | Yes, it does. > | > | All the best > | > | Steve > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > | Andy Collins > | Sent: Tuesday 26 August 2008 18:14 > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > | > | Steve - Does JFW work then on these UMPCs? - > | > | Andy > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > | Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:41 PM > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > | > | > || Hi Andy, > || > || I've no idea, I don't use it. > || > || All the best > || > || Steve > || > || -----Original Message----- > || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > | Of > || Andy Collins > || Sent: Tuesday 26 August 2008 10:21 > || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > || > || Steve - Is there a steep learning curve with Linnux? Is it very > different > | to > || > || Windows? - > || > || Andy > || ----- Original Message ----- > || From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > || Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:39 AM > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > || > || > ||| Hi, > ||| > ||| Linnux has a dedicated screen reader called Speakup. If you download > the > ||| Ubuntu distribution, it can even speak the installation process. > ||| > ||| All the best > ||| > ||| Steve > ||| > ||| -----Original Message----- > ||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > || Of > ||| Saqib > ||| Sent: Monday 25 August 2008 20:49 > ||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| > ||| Hi Steve what speech program can you use with Linux. I was told that > | Linux > ||| doesn't support the current market of speech programs. > ||| ----- Original Message ----- > ||| From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:23 PM > ||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| > ||| > ||| > Hi Barry, > ||| > > ||| > XP Home or Linux. Both of which will of course, talk. > ||| > > ||| > All the best > ||| > > ||| > Steve > ||| > > ||| > -----Original Message----- > ||| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > | Behalf > ||| > Of > ||| > Barry G > ||| > Sent: Monday 25 August 2008 17:30 > ||| > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ||| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| > > ||| > Do you know what operating system it's using, and will it run a > screen > ||| > reader? > ||| > > ||| > All the best, > ||| > Barry G > ||| > ----- Original Message ----- > ||| > From: "Dean Wilcox" <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:25 PM > ||| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| > > ||| > > ||| >>I am surprised the Asus EEE mobile PC isn't getting more of a > mention. > ||| >>Its > ||| > > ||| >>a mobile PC like we're discussing here but the hard drive is flash > || based. > ||| >>It only has a 4 or 8 GB drive depending on model but you can use SD > || cards > ||| >>to boost this. This makes it quieter and the battery life is over 3 > ||| >>hours, > ||| > > ||| >>I'm sure I heard 3.5. > ||| >> > ||| >> At 16:48 25/08/2008, you wrote: > ||| >>>Hi Steve, > ||| >>> > ||| >>>"I have just ordered the MSI Wind, primarily because it has a > slightly > ||| >>>more gutsy processor than the Advent on it..." > ||| >>> > ||| >>>Hmmm, from what I read the MSI Wind and the Advent are the same. > The > ||| >>>reviews say that the Advent is the MSI Wind only repackaged under a > ||| >>>different brand name for UK market and sold by PC World. It worth > ||| >>>mentioning that the new EEEPC is using the Atom Intel processer > too. > ||| >>> > ||| >>>Cheers, > ||| >>>Amro > ||| >>> > ||| >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" > <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| >>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| >>>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:31 PM > ||| >>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| >>> > ||| >>> > ||| >>>>Hi Saqib, > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>I have just ordered the MSI Wind, primarily because it has a > slightly > ||| >>>>more > ||| >>>>gutsy processor than the Advent on it. Also, I read in reviews > that > || the > ||| >>>>fan > ||| >>>>on the Advent is a bit noisy. Is this true? > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>All the best > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>Steve > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>-----Original Message----- > ||| >>>>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > || Behalf > ||| >>>>Of > ||| >>>>Saqib > ||| >>>>Sent: Monday 25 August 2008 12:56 > ||| >>>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ||| >>>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>Hi Andy I have the Advent 4211 10 inch mini laptop. It has XP HOme > | and > ||| >>>>1GB > ||| >>>>RAM and 80 GB hard disk space. Battery life will be around 1 hour > and > || 40 > ||| >>>>mins roughly. It has 3 USB ports and the fan vents are on the left > || side. > ||| >>>>I > ||| >>>>run System Access which is my preferred screen reader and I think > | Jaws > ||| >>>>will > ||| >>>>run nicely on the machine. I will run a demo on the machine later > to > || see > ||| >>>>if > ||| >>>>Jaws does run properly. This laptop is for £279.99 from PC World > and > ||| >>>>Currys. > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>I'll let you know how the Jaws experiment went. > ||| >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" > ||| >>>><andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| >>>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ||| >>>>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:46 PM > ||| >>>>Subject: [access-uk] Ultra Mobile PCs > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>> > ||| >>>>>Hi all - > ||| >>>>> > ||| >>>>>Will JFW run under the OS on UMPCs? I don't know anything about > || UMPCs, > ||| >>>>>but > ||| >>>>>they look to be a more handy alternative to a laptop? 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