[access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:21:24 +0100
Hi Brian,
Do you know of a quick way to get back to the history window, when you are
in the input window? In older versions, it used to be one shift-tab, but
not any more.
Thanksl.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: 22 May 2005 11:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
Hi
No I don't think so. I presume you have the various sound check boxes
enabled so you can hear as and when contacts sign in and send you a message.
That's about everything.
Brian Hartgen
E-Mail: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: brianhartgen
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> Brian, your suggestion of hitting the alt key twice worked just fine so
I'm
> not going to down grade to a lower version of MSN, if all it takes is to
hit
> the alt key a couple of times. However, is there any settings in options
> under tools that could be changed to assist MSN to run optimally with
jaws,
> that you could suggest?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jim.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:51 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
>
>
> > Jim, you might not have to put up with this version of MSN. Try
> >
> > http://www.oldversion.com/
> >
> > and see if you can get the older MSN version which was recommended from
> > there. I find this site useful anyway!
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Amro
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:19 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Steve and Brian. I don't have another version of MSN messenger,
> so
> > > I'll just have to put up with this one until either someone comes up
> with
> > > a
> > > work around or scripts.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:20 PM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Jim,
> > >>
> > >> Those settings don't also work in MSN 7 beta either, so I reckon a
> > >> rewrite
> > >> will be needed. I can't do it yet, because I can't find out how to
get
> > > rid
> > >> of the toolbars in MSN 7 beta.
> > >>
> > >> All the best
> > >> --
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> > >> Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf
> > >> Of jim.doc
> > >> Sent: 21 May 2005 10:56
> > >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Brian,
> > >>
> > >> Jaws 6.10 with MSN version 6.2..
> > >> Jim.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:48 PM
> > >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi
> > >> > I've been away for a couple of days and have not quite got around
to
> > >> > reading all of this thread. Which version of jaws are you running?
> > >> > Brian Hartgen
> > >> > E-Mail: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > Skype: brianhartgen
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:09 PM
> > >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi James,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for the MSN instructions, however, in MSN 6.2 there's no
> view
> > >> menu,
> > >> > > in the main window or the conversation window. I can't seem to
get
> > >> > > rid
> > >> of
> > >> > > the tool bar. I've unchecked both standard and formatting, but it
> > >> remains
> > >> > > there. The problem is that when a conversation is started, it
won't
> > > read
> > >> > out
> > >> > > what is being sent or received. if I go onto the tool bar with
the
> > >> > > alt
> > >> key
> > >> > > and then escape and go back to the input field, it seems to work
> ok.
> > > So
> > >> I
> > >> > > don't know how to rectify this problem. I hope someone can help.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > regards.
> > >> > > Jim.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:39 PM
> > >> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Jim
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I am reposting below a message sent to the list by Brian
Hartgen
> a
> > >> while
> > >> > > > ago.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > James
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Carol
> > >> > > > Once you get as far as getting your passport, you may find the
> > >> following
> > >> > > > notes regarding using Messenger helpful which I think I adapted
a
> > >> while
> > >> > > ago
> > >> > > > from the JFW Lite web page.
> > >> > > > MSN MESSENGER OR WINDOWS MESSENGER
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Although the following refers to MSN Messenger, it is
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > applicable to Windows Messenger in XP.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The first thing you need to do in order to use Messenger is to
> get
> > >> > > > a
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > passport. Hotmail addresses already work as a passport by
> default.
> > > If
> > >> > you
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > want to use your own email address, go to
> > >> > > > http://register.passport.net
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > get a passport. You will need to verify your email address.
To
> > >> verify
> > >> > > your
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > email address, an email will arrive with a link in
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > it that you enter on and then you have to enter some
information
> > >> > > > and
> > >> > > follow
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > the steps.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Next install Messenger. You can download it by going to
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > http://messenger.msn.com/
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If you are using Windows XP, it already comes installed with
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Windows Messenger, so you don't need to install it.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > When it is finished installing, press insert f11, and you
should
> > > find
> > >> > MSN
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Messenger not signed in listed in your system tray list.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hit enter on MSN Messenger and arrow down on the context menu
to
> > > sign
> > >> in
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > enter.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Once you have signed in, you need to set up Messenger for best
> > >> > performance
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > with Jaws.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > First, you need to change the way that MSN Messenger sorts
> > >> > > > contacts,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > and then you need to make some changes to the appearance of the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > conversation window. To change how MSN sorts contacts:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 1. When in the main MSN window, hit alt t for tools, and then
c.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > This will open the sort contacts by sub menu.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 2. Arrow down to online/offline and press enter.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The first time you have a conversation with someone, to remove
> the
> > >> tool
> > >> > > bar
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > and side bar from the conversation windows,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > and disable emoticons:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 1. Open any conversation window.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 2. Press alt v, and arrow down until it says enable emoticons.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If it says checked, press enter to uncheck it.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 3. Re-enter the view menu, and arrow down until you see show
> > > toolbar.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Press enter if it is checked.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 4. Re-enter the view menu and arrow down until it says show
> > > sidebar.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Press enter if it is checked.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You should only have to do this once, but there is a slight
> > >> possibility
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > that you will have to do it twice. After that, the settings
> should
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > remain as you set them.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Next here is a quick overview of the changes you might need to
> make
> > > in
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > options. Press alt T for tools, O for options.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On the personal page, you can type in a screen name as you want
> > > other
> > >> > > users
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > to see it. Also tab to show graphical emoticons and uncheck
it.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Control tab to the preferences page and if you don't want MSN
to
> > > start
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > automatically with Windows, uncheck the box for run this
program
> > > when
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > windows starts. (Note, also if you use OE, go to your tools
menu
> > >> > > > in
> > >> OE
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > then options
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > and tab to automatically log onto Windows messenger and uncheck
> > >> > > > it.)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On the preferences page leave the alert checkboxes checked as
> they
> > > are
> > >> > for
> > >> > > > sound
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > notifications.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Enter on okay to close the dialog.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Now that you have MSN set up, to add a contact, press alt T for
> > > tools,
> > >> > and
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > enter on add a contact.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Leave the radio button selected for by email address and enter
on
> > > next
> > >> > and
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > enter the person's MSN contact address.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To send a message to a contact, you can hit enter on the
contacts
> > > name
> > >> > in
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > the main messenger window.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You can save your conversation by going to the files menu with
> alt
> > > f,
> > >> > then
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > press A, then a standard save dialog appears. The
conversations
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > will be saved as a text file. To leave a conversation hit
> escape.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To start a voice chat with a contact, press the windows
> application
> > >> key
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > while focused on the contact name and choose start a voice
> > >> conversation
> > >> > > from
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > the context menu.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I recommend you go to the tools menu and run the audio tuning
> > >> > > > wizard
> > >> > first
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > before you try to voice chat with someone.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You can also start a voice chat from a conversation window by
> > > pressing
> > >> > alt
> > >> > > A
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > for the actions menu and enter on start talking. Once they
> accept
> > >> your
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > invitation to voice chat you can just start speaking into your
> > >> > microphone.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To send a file, press the windows application key while focused
> on
> > > the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > contact name and enter on send a file from the context menu.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You can also send a file from a conversation window by pressing
> alt
> > > A
> > >> > for
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > the actions menu and enter on send a file.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > A standard open dialog will come up for you to locate your
file.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > As well, if someone sends you a file, it will be placed in
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > c:\my documents\messenger service received files or c:\my
> > > documents\my
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > received files.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You can block or unblock a sender by focusing on the contact
name
> > > and
> > >> > then
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > pressing the application key and arrow down to block or
unblock.
> > >> > > > If
> > >> you
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > want to find out who a contact might be, hit alt enter on their
> > >> > > > name
> > >> and
> > >> > > use
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > the JAWS cursor to read their email address.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To change your status, tab to where it says my status and your
> name
> > > in
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > main messenger window and press the application key and enter
on
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > status
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > you wish to be seen by others.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If you use Jaws 4.50, it will already come with some excellent
> > > scripts
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > will automatically read incoming messages to you, alert you
when
> > >> > contacts
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > come online and notify you of who is sending you a message.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The messages will be placed on the task bar and you can alt tab
> to
> > > the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > conversation when you are notified that someone has
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > sent you a message.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Reading Messages
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > When the conversation window is maximized, JAWS automatically
> reads
> > >> > > incoming
> > >> > > > messages. JAWS automatically maximizes the message window as
soon
> > >> > > > as
> > >> it
> > >> > is
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > opened. JAWS also provides commands that allow you to read
> previous
> > >> > > > messages. For more information about these commands, refer to
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > JAWS Commands for MSN Instant Messenger.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > MSN Messenger Notifications
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > MSN Messenger displays notification messages to indicate when a
> > >> contact
> > >> > > has
> > >> > > > signed on and to inform you when a new HotMail email message
has
> > > been
> > >> > > > received.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > JAWS reads these notifications when they appear, even if you
are
> > >> working
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > another application. To hear the name of the contact who signed
> in
> > >> most
> > >> > > > recently,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > press ALT+SHIFT+F12. JAWS says, "X signed in at y," with y
being
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > time
> > >> > > > the contact signed in.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If you are working in another window, MSN plays a sound to
alert
> > >> > > > you
> > >> > that
> > >> > > > someone is sending you an instant message. To switch to this
> > >> > > > "urgent
> > >> > > > conversation,"
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > press CTRL+SHIFT+DASH. JAWS reads the most recent message in
the
> > >> > > > conversation window.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Typing Notification
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > When a conversation window is maximized, a clicking sound is
> heard
> > >> while
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > contact is typing. To toggle this sound, press CTRL+SHIFT+F12.
> JAWS
> > >> can
> > >> > > also
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > announce when the contact is typing a message. To toggle the
> status
> > > of
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > announcement, press ALT+CTRL+F12. If typing sounder and
> > >> > > > announcement
> > >> are
> > >> > > > disabled,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > press F12 to check the typing status. If the contact is typing
a
> > >> > message,
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > single click sounds.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Channels
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Channels allow you to move quickly to a conversation window
from
> > >> > > > any
> > >> > other
> > >> > > > open window, including the windows for other applications. To
> > >> > > > assign
> > > a
> > >> > > > conversation
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > to a channel, press CTRL+1 through 5. To move to a channel
which
> > >> > > > has
> > >> > been
> > >> > > > assigned, press CTRL+SHIFT+1 through 5.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Emoticons
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Emoticons are combinations of characters that resemble graphics
> > >> > > > when
> > >> > > > rotated. JAWS provides a list of common emoticons for use with
> MSN
> > >> > > > messenger. JAWS
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > also uses this list to interpret emoticons in the message
window
> > >> > > > and
> > >> > reads
> > >> > > > them as part of the incoming message.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To open the list of emoticons, press CTRL+SHIFT+M. To move
> through
> > > the
> > >> > > list,
> > >> > > > press UP or DOWN ARROW. To insert the selected emoticon into
your
> > >> > > > conversation,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > press ENTER.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > VOICE CONVERSATIONS
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To start a voice conversation, from within the main message
> window,
> > >> tab
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > the button labelled Start a Voice Conversation.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Brian Hartgen
> > >> > > >
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