[access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:18:44 +0100

Hi Brian,

If I do that, there are only standard and formatting, and they are both
unchecked, but the darned buttons, winks, nudges, are still there.  What
next?

Cheers.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: 21 May 2005 17:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.


Hi Steve
Open a conversation window, select tools, show toolbars. The options are in
there.

Brian Hartgen
E-Mail:  brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
MSN:  brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
Skype:  brianhartgen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:20 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.


> Hi Jim,
>
> Those settings don't also work in MSN 7 beta either, so I reckon a rewrite
> will be needed.  I can't do it yet, because I can't find out how to get
rid
> of the toolbars in MSN 7 beta.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> Of jim.doc
> Sent: 21 May 2005 10:56
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Jaws 6.10 with MSN version 6.2..
> Jim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:48 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
>
>
> > Hi
> > I've been away for a  couple of days and have not quite got around to
> > reading all of this thread. Which version of jaws are you running?
> > Brian Hartgen
> > E-Mail:  brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > MSN:  brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Skype:  brianhartgen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:09 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >
> >
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the MSN instructions, however, in MSN 6.2 there's no view
> menu,
> > > in the main window or the conversation window. I can't seem to get rid
> of
> > > the tool bar. I've unchecked both standard and formatting, but it
> remains
> > > there. The problem is that when a conversation is started, it won't
read
> > out
> > > what is being sent or received. if I go onto the tool bar with the alt
> key
> > > and then escape and go back to the input field, it seems to work ok.
So
> I
> > > don't know how to rectify this problem. I hope someone can help.
> > >
> > > regards.
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:39 PM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Jim
> > > >
> > > > I am reposting below a message sent to the list by Brian Hartgen a
> while
> > > > ago.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Carol
> > > > Once you get as far as getting your passport, you may find the
> following
> > > > notes regarding using Messenger helpful which I think I adapted a
> while
> > > ago
> > > > from the JFW Lite web page.
> > > > MSN MESSENGER OR WINDOWS MESSENGER
> > > >
> > > > Although the following refers to MSN Messenger, it is
> > > >
> > > > applicable to Windows Messenger in XP.
> > > >
> > > > The first thing you need to do in order to use Messenger is to get a
> > > >
> > > > passport.  Hotmail addresses already work as a passport by default.
If
> > you
> > > >
> > > > want to use your own email address, go to
> > > > http://register.passport.net
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > get a passport.  You will need to verify your email address.  To
> verify
> > > your
> > > >
> > > > email address, an email will arrive with a link in
> > > >
> > > > it that you enter on and then you have to enter some information and
> > > follow
> > > >
> > > > the steps.
> > > >
> > > > Next install Messenger.  You can download it by going to
> > > >
> > > > http://messenger.msn.com/
> > > >
> > > > If you are using Windows XP, it already comes installed with
> > > >
> > > > Windows Messenger, so you don't need to install it.
> > > >
> > > > When it is finished installing, press insert f11, and you should
find
> > MSN
> > > >
> > > > Messenger not signed in listed in your system tray list.
> > > >
> > > > Hit enter on MSN Messenger and arrow down on the context menu to
sign
> in
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > enter.
> > > >
> > > > Once you have signed in, you need to set up Messenger for best
> > performance
> > > >
> > > > with Jaws.
> > > >
> > > > First, you need to change the way that MSN Messenger sorts contacts,
> > > >
> > > > and then you need to make some changes to the appearance of the
> > > >
> > > > conversation window.  To change how MSN sorts contacts:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  When in the main MSN window, hit alt t for tools, and then c.
> > > >
> > > > This will open the sort contacts by sub menu.
> > > >
> > > > 2.  Arrow down to online/offline and press enter.
> > > >
> > > > The first time you have a conversation with someone, to remove the
> tool
> > > bar
> > > >
> > > > and side bar from the conversation windows,
> > > >
> > > > and disable emoticons:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  Open any conversation window.
> > > >
> > > > 2.  Press alt v, and arrow down until it says enable emoticons.
> > > >
> > > > If it says checked, press enter to uncheck it.
> > > >
> > > > 3.  Re-enter the view menu, and arrow down until you see show
toolbar.
> > > >
> > > > Press enter if it is checked.
> > > >
> > > > 4.  Re-enter the view menu and arrow down until it says show
sidebar.
> > > >
> > > > Press enter if it is checked.
> > > >
> > > > You should only have to do this once, but there is a slight
> possibility
> > > >
> > > > that you will have to do it twice.  After that, the settings should
> > > >
> > > > remain as you set them.
> > > >
> > > > Next here is a quick overview of the changes you might need to make
in
> > the
> > > >
> > > > options.  Press alt T for tools, O for options.
> > > >
> > > > On the personal page, you can type in a screen name as you want
other
> > > users
> > > >
> > > > to see it.  Also tab to show graphical emoticons and uncheck it.
> > > >
> > > > Control tab to the preferences page and if you don't want MSN to
start
> > > >
> > > > automatically with Windows, uncheck the box for run this program
when
> > > >
> > > > windows starts.  (Note, also if you use OE, go to your tools menu in
> OE
> > > and
> > > > then options
> > > >
> > > > and tab to automatically log onto Windows messenger and uncheck it.)
> > > >
> > > > On the preferences page leave the alert checkboxes checked as they
are
> > for
> > > > sound
> > > >
> > > > notifications.
> > > >
> > > > Enter on okay to close the dialog.
> > > >
> > > > Now that you have MSN set up, to add a contact, press alt T for
tools,
> > and
> > > >
> > > > enter on add a contact.
> > > >
> > > > Leave the radio button selected for by email address and enter on
next
> > and
> > > >
> > > > enter the person's MSN contact address.
> > > >
> > > > To send a message to a contact, you can hit enter on the contacts
name
> > in
> > > >
> > > > the  main messenger window.
> > > >
> > > > You can save your conversation by going to the files menu with alt
f,
> > then
> > > >
> > > > press A, then a standard save dialog appears.  The conversations
> > > >
> > > > will be saved as a text file.  To leave a conversation hit escape.
> > > >
> > > > To start a voice chat with a contact, press the windows application
> key
> > > >
> > > > while focused on the contact name and choose start a voice
> conversation
> > > from
> > > >
> > > > the context menu.
> > > >
> > > > I recommend you go to the tools menu and run the audio tuning wizard
> > first
> > > >
> > > > before you try to voice chat with someone.
> > > >
> > > > You can also start a voice chat from a conversation window by
pressing
> > alt
> > > A
> > > >
> > > > for the actions menu and enter on start talking.  Once they accept
> your
> > > >
> > > > invitation to voice chat you can just start speaking into your
> > microphone.
> > > >
> > > > To send a file, press the windows application key while focused on
the
> > > >
> > > > contact name and enter on send a file from the context menu.
> > > >
> > > > You can also send a file from a conversation window by pressing alt
A
> > for
> > > >
> > > > the actions menu and enter on send a file.
> > > >
> > > > A standard open dialog will come up for you to locate your file.
> > > >
> > > > As well, if someone sends you a file, it will be placed in
> > > >
> > > > c:\my documents\messenger service received files or c:\my
documents\my
> > > >
> > > > received files.
> > > >
> > > > You can block or unblock a sender by focusing on the contact name
and
> > then
> > > >
> > > > pressing the application key and arrow down to block or unblock.  If
> you
> > > >
> > > > want to find out who a contact might be, hit alt enter on their name
> and
> > > use
> > > >
> > > > the JAWS cursor to read their email address.
> > > >
> > > > To change your status, tab to where it says my status and your name
in
> > the
> > > >
> > > > main messenger window and press the application key and enter on the
> > > status
> > > >
> > > > you wish to be seen by others.
> > > >
> > > > If you use Jaws 4.50, it will already come with some excellent
scripts
> > > that
> > > >
> > > > will automatically read incoming messages to you, alert you when
> > contacts
> > > >
> > > > come online and notify you of who is sending you a message.
> > > >
> > > > The messages will be placed on the task bar and you can alt tab to
the
> > > >
> > > > conversation when you are notified that someone has
> > > >
> > > > sent you a message.
> > > >
> > > > Reading Messages
> > > >
> > > > When the conversation window is maximized, JAWS automatically reads
> > > incoming
> > > > messages. JAWS automatically maximizes the message window as soon as
> it
> > is
> > > >
> > > > opened. JAWS also provides commands that allow you to read previous
> > > > messages. For more information about these commands, refer to
> > > >
> > > > JAWS Commands for MSN Instant Messenger.
> > > >
> > > > MSN Messenger Notifications
> > > >
> > > > MSN Messenger displays notification messages to indicate when a
> contact
> > > has
> > > > signed on and to inform you when a new HotMail email message has
been
> > > > received.
> > > >
> > > > JAWS reads these notifications when they appear, even if you are
> working
> > > in
> > > > another application. To hear the name of the contact who signed in
> most
> > > > recently,
> > > >
> > > > press ALT+SHIFT+F12. JAWS says, "X signed in at y," with y being the
> > time
> > > > the contact signed in.
> > > >
> > > > If you are working in another window, MSN plays a sound to alert you
> > that
> > > > someone is sending you an instant message. To switch to this "urgent
> > > > conversation,"
> > > >
> > > > press CTRL+SHIFT+DASH. JAWS reads the most recent message in the
> > > > conversation window.
> > > >
> > > > Typing Notification
> > > >
> > > > When a conversation window is maximized, a clicking sound is heard
> while
> > > the
> > > > contact is typing. To toggle this sound, press CTRL+SHIFT+F12. JAWS
> can
> > > also
> > > >
> > > > announce when the contact is typing a message. To toggle the status
of
> > > this
> > > > announcement, press ALT+CTRL+F12. If typing sounder and announcement
> are
> > > > disabled,
> > > >
> > > > press F12 to check the typing status. If the contact is typing a
> > message,
> > > a
> > > > single click sounds.
> > > >
> > > > Channels
> > > >
> > > > Channels allow you to move quickly to a conversation window from any
> > other
> > > > open window, including the windows for other applications. To assign
a
> > > > conversation
> > > >
> > > > to a channel, press CTRL+1 through 5. To move to a channel which has
> > been
> > > > assigned, press CTRL+SHIFT+1 through 5.
> > > >
> > > > Emoticons
> > > >
> > > > Emoticons are combinations of characters that resemble graphics when
> > > > rotated. JAWS provides a list of common emoticons for use with MSN
> > > > messenger. JAWS
> > > >
> > > > also uses this list to interpret emoticons in the message window and
> > reads
> > > > them as part of the incoming message.
> > > >
> > > > To open the list of emoticons, press CTRL+SHIFT+M. To move through
the
> > > list,
> > > > press UP or DOWN ARROW. To insert the selected emoticon into your
> > > > conversation,
> > > >
> > > > press ENTER.
> > > >
> > > > VOICE CONVERSATIONS
> > > >
> > > > To start a voice conversation, from within the main message window,
> tab
> > to
> > > > the button labelled Start a Voice Conversation.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Hartgen
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