Jim, you might not have to put up with this version of MSN. Try
http://www.oldversion.com/
HTH,
Thanks Steve and Brian. I don't have another version of MSN messenger, so
I'll just have to put up with this one until either someone comes up with a
work around or scripts.
Thanks. Jim.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
ridHi Jim,
Those settings don't also work in MSN 7 beta either, so I reckon a rewrite
will be needed. I can't do it yet, because I can't find out how to getreadof the toolbars in MSN 7 beta.
All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
-----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of jim.doc Sent: 21 May 2005 10:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
Hi Brian,
Jaws 6.10 with MSN version 6.2.. Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> Hi
> I've been away for a couple of days and have not quite got around to
> reading all of this thread. Which version of jaws are you running?
> Brian Hartgen
> E-Mail: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: brianhartgen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:09 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
>
>
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Thanks for the MSN instructions, however, in MSN 6.2 there's no view
menu,
> > in the main window or the conversation window. I can't seem to get > > rid
of
> > the tool bar. I've unchecked both standard and formatting, but it
remains
> > there. The problem is that when a conversation is started, it won't> outSo
> > what is being sent or received. if I go onto the tool bar with the > > alt
key
> > and then escape and go back to the input field, it seems to work ok.IIf
> > don't know how to rectify this problem. I hope someone can help.
> >
> > regards.
> > Jim.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:39 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jim
> > >
> > > I am reposting below a message sent to the list by Brian Hartgen a
while
> > > ago.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Carol
> > > Once you get as far as getting your passport, you may find the
following
> > > notes regarding using Messenger helpful which I think I adapted a
while
> > ago
> > > from the JFW Lite web page.
> > > MSN MESSENGER OR WINDOWS MESSENGER
> > >
> > > Although the following refers to MSN Messenger, it is
> > >
> > > applicable to Windows Messenger in XP.
> > >
> > > The first thing you need to do in order to use Messenger is to get > > > a
> > >
> > > passport. Hotmail addresses already work as a passport by default.> youfind
> > >
> > > want to use your own email address, go to
> > > http://register.passport.net
> > > to
> > >
> > > get a passport. You will need to verify your email address. To
verify
> > your
> > >
> > > email address, an email will arrive with a link in
> > >
> > > it that you enter on and then you have to enter some information > > > and
> > follow
> > >
> > > the steps.
> > >
> > > Next install Messenger. You can download it by going to
> > >
> > > http://messenger.msn.com/
> > >
> > > If you are using Windows XP, it already comes installed with
> > >
> > > Windows Messenger, so you don't need to install it.
> > >
> > > When it is finished installing, press insert f11, and you shouldsign> MSN > > > > > > Messenger not signed in listed in your system tray list. > > > > > > Hit enter on MSN Messenger and arrow down on the context menu tointoolbar.
> > and
> > >
> > > enter.
> > >
> > > Once you have signed in, you need to set up Messenger for best
> performance
> > >
> > > with Jaws.
> > >
> > > First, you need to change the way that MSN Messenger sorts > > > contacts,
> > >
> > > and then you need to make some changes to the appearance of the
> > >
> > > conversation window. To change how MSN sorts contacts:
> > >
> > > 1. When in the main MSN window, hit alt t for tools, and then c.
> > >
> > > This will open the sort contacts by sub menu.
> > >
> > > 2. Arrow down to online/offline and press enter.
> > >
> > > The first time you have a conversation with someone, to remove the
tool
> > bar
> > >
> > > and side bar from the conversation windows,
> > >
> > > and disable emoticons:
> > >
> > > 1. Open any conversation window.
> > >
> > > 2. Press alt v, and arrow down until it says enable emoticons.
> > >
> > > If it says checked, press enter to uncheck it.
> > >
> > > 3. Re-enter the view menu, and arrow down until you see showsidebar.> > > > > > Press enter if it is checked. > > > > > > 4. Re-enter the view menu and arrow down until it says showin> > > > > > Press enter if it is checked. > > > > > > You should only have to do this once, but there is a slight possibility > > > > > > that you will have to do it twice. After that, the settings should > > > > > > remain as you set them. > > > > > > Next here is a quick overview of the changes you might need to makeother> the > > > > > > options. Press alt T for tools, O for options. > > > > > > On the personal page, you can type in a screen name as you wantstart> > users > > > > > > to see it. Also tab to show graphical emoticons and uncheck it. > > > > > > Control tab to the preferences page and if you don't want MSN towhen> > > > > > automatically with Windows, uncheck the box for run this program> > >are
> > > windows starts. (Note, also if you use OE, go to your tools menu > > > in
OE
> > and
> > > then options
> > >
> > > and tab to automatically log onto Windows messenger and uncheck > > > it.)
> > >
> > > On the preferences page leave the alert checkboxes checked as theytools,> for > > > sound > > > > > > notifications. > > > > > > Enter on okay to close the dialog. > > > > > > Now that you have MSN set up, to add a contact, press alt T fornext> and > > > > > > enter on add a contact. > > > > > > Leave the radio button selected for by email address and enter onname> and > > > > > > enter the person's MSN contact address. > > > > > > To send a message to a contact, you can hit enter on the contactsf,> in > > > > > > the main messenger window. > > > > > > You can save your conversation by going to the files menu with alt> thenpressing
> > >
> > > press A, then a standard save dialog appears. The conversations
> > >
> > > will be saved as a text file. To leave a conversation hit escape.
> > >
> > > To start a voice chat with a contact, press the windows application
key
> > >
> > > while focused on the contact name and choose start a voice
conversation
> > from
> > >
> > > the context menu.
> > >
> > > I recommend you go to the tools menu and run the audio tuning > > > wizard
> first
> > >
> > > before you try to voice chat with someone.
> > >
> > > You can also start a voice chat from a conversation window bythe> alt > > A > > > > > > for the actions menu and enter on start talking. Once they accept your > > > > > > invitation to voice chat you can just start speaking into your > microphone. > > > > > > To send a file, press the windows application key while focused onA> > > > > > contact name and enter on send a file from the context menu. > > > > > > You can also send a file from a conversation window by pressing altdocuments\my> for > > > > > > the actions menu and enter on send a file. > > > > > > A standard open dialog will come up for you to locate your file. > > > > > > As well, if someone sends you a file, it will be placed in > > > > > > c:\my documents\messenger service received files or c:\myand> > > > > > received files. > > > > > > You can block or unblock a sender by focusing on the contact name> thenin
> > >
> > > pressing the application key and arrow down to block or unblock. > > > If
you
> > >
> > > want to find out who a contact might be, hit alt enter on their > > > name
and
> > use
> > >
> > > the JAWS cursor to read their email address.
> > >
> > > To change your status, tab to where it says my status and your name> thescripts
> > >
> > > main messenger window and press the application key and enter on > > > the
> > status
> > >
> > > you wish to be seen by others.
> > >
> > > If you use Jaws 4.50, it will already come with some excellentthe> > that > > > > > > will automatically read incoming messages to you, alert you when > contacts > > > > > > come online and notify you of who is sending you a message. > > > > > > The messages will be placed on the task bar and you can alt tab to> > >been
> > > conversation when you are notified that someone has
> > >
> > > sent you a message.
> > >
> > > Reading Messages
> > >
> > > When the conversation window is maximized, JAWS automatically reads
> > incoming
> > > messages. JAWS automatically maximizes the message window as soon > > > as
it
> is
> > >
> > > opened. JAWS also provides commands that allow you to read previous
> > > messages. For more information about these commands, refer to
> > >
> > > JAWS Commands for MSN Instant Messenger.
> > >
> > > MSN Messenger Notifications
> > >
> > > MSN Messenger displays notification messages to indicate when a
contact
> > has
> > > signed on and to inform you when a new HotMail email message has> > > received.of
> > >
> > > JAWS reads these notifications when they appear, even if you are
working
> > in
> > > another application. To hear the name of the contact who signed in
most
> > > recently,
> > >
> > > press ALT+SHIFT+F12. JAWS says, "X signed in at y," with y being > > > the
> time
> > > the contact signed in.
> > >
> > > If you are working in another window, MSN plays a sound to alert > > > you
> that
> > > someone is sending you an instant message. To switch to this > > > "urgent
> > > conversation,"
> > >
> > > press CTRL+SHIFT+DASH. JAWS reads the most recent message in the
> > > conversation window.
> > >
> > > Typing Notification
> > >
> > > When a conversation window is maximized, a clicking sound is heard
while
> > the
> > > contact is typing. To toggle this sound, press CTRL+SHIFT+F12. JAWS
can
> > also
> > >
> > > announce when the contact is typing a message. To toggle the status> > thisa
> > > announcement, press ALT+CTRL+F12. If typing sounder and > > > announcement
are
> > > disabled,
> > >
> > > press F12 to check the typing status. If the contact is typing a
> message,
> > a
> > > single click sounds.
> > >
> > > Channels
> > >
> > > Channels allow you to move quickly to a conversation window from > > > any
> other
> > > open window, including the windows for other applications. To > > > assign> > > conversationthe
> > >
> > > to a channel, press CTRL+1 through 5. To move to a channel which > > > has
> been
> > > assigned, press CTRL+SHIFT+1 through 5.
> > >
> > > Emoticons
> > >
> > > Emoticons are combinations of characters that resemble graphics > > > when
> > > rotated. JAWS provides a list of common emoticons for use with MSN
> > > messenger. JAWS
> > >
> > > also uses this list to interpret emoticons in the message window > > > and
> reads
> > > them as part of the incoming message.
> > >
> > > To open the list of emoticons, press CTRL+SHIFT+M. To move through> > list, > > > press UP or DOWN ARROW. To insert the selected emoticon into your > > > conversation, > > > > > > press ENTER. > > > > > > VOICE CONVERSATIONS > > > > > > To start a voice conversation, from within the main message window, tab > to > > > the button labelled Start a Voice Conversation. > > > > > > Brian Hartgen > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ** and in the Subject line type > > > ** unsubscribe > > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > > ** immediately-following link:- > > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > > ** or send a message, to > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >
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