[access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
- From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:44:56 +0100
hi Amro, I'll try that site out.
Jim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:51 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> Jim, you might not have to put up with this version of MSN. Try
>
> http://www.oldversion.com/
>
> and see if you can get the older MSN version which was recommended from
> there. I find this site useful anyway!
>
> HTH,
>
> Amro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
>
>
> > Thanks Steve and Brian. I don't have another version of MSN messenger,
so
> > I'll just have to put up with this one until either someone comes up
with
> > a
> > work around or scripts.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Jim.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:20 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Those settings don't also work in MSN 7 beta either, so I reckon a
> >> rewrite
> >> will be needed. I can't do it yet, because I can't find out how to get
> > rid
> >> of the toolbars in MSN 7 beta.
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> --
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> >> Of jim.doc
> >> Sent: 21 May 2005 10:56
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Brian,
> >>
> >> Jaws 6.10 with MSN version 6.2..
> >> Jim.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:48 PM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> > I've been away for a couple of days and have not quite got around to
> >> > reading all of this thread. Which version of jaws are you running?
> >> > Brian Hartgen
> >> > E-Mail: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Skype: brianhartgen
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "jim.doc" <jim.doc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:09 PM
> >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Hi James,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for the MSN instructions, however, in MSN 6.2 there's no
view
> >> menu,
> >> > > in the main window or the conversation window. I can't seem to get
> >> > > rid
> >> of
> >> > > the tool bar. I've unchecked both standard and formatting, but it
> >> remains
> >> > > there. The problem is that when a conversation is started, it won't
> > read
> >> > out
> >> > > what is being sent or received. if I go onto the tool bar with the
> >> > > alt
> >> key
> >> > > and then escape and go back to the input field, it seems to work
ok.
> > So
> >> I
> >> > > don't know how to rectify this problem. I hope someone can help.
> >> > >
> >> > > regards.
> >> > > Jim.
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:39 PM
> >> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: MSN messenger settings.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Jim
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I am reposting below a message sent to the list by Brian Hartgen
a
> >> while
> >> > > > ago.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > James
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Carol
> >> > > > Once you get as far as getting your passport, you may find the
> >> following
> >> > > > notes regarding using Messenger helpful which I think I adapted a
> >> while
> >> > > ago
> >> > > > from the JFW Lite web page.
> >> > > > MSN MESSENGER OR WINDOWS MESSENGER
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Although the following refers to MSN Messenger, it is
> >> > > >
> >> > > > applicable to Windows Messenger in XP.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The first thing you need to do in order to use Messenger is to
get
> >> > > > a
> >> > > >
> >> > > > passport. Hotmail addresses already work as a passport by
default.
> > If
> >> > you
> >> > > >
> >> > > > want to use your own email address, go to
> >> > > > http://register.passport.net
> >> > > > to
> >> > > >
> >> > > > get a passport. You will need to verify your email address. To
> >> verify
> >> > > your
> >> > > >
> >> > > > email address, an email will arrive with a link in
> >> > > >
> >> > > > it that you enter on and then you have to enter some information
> >> > > > and
> >> > > follow
> >> > > >
> >> > > > the steps.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Next install Messenger. You can download it by going to
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://messenger.msn.com/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you are using Windows XP, it already comes installed with
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Windows Messenger, so you don't need to install it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > When it is finished installing, press insert f11, and you should
> > find
> >> > MSN
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Messenger not signed in listed in your system tray list.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hit enter on MSN Messenger and arrow down on the context menu to
> > sign
> >> in
> >> > > and
> >> > > >
> >> > > > enter.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Once you have signed in, you need to set up Messenger for best
> >> > performance
> >> > > >
> >> > > > with Jaws.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > First, you need to change the way that MSN Messenger sorts
> >> > > > contacts,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and then you need to make some changes to the appearance of the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > conversation window. To change how MSN sorts contacts:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1. When in the main MSN window, hit alt t for tools, and then c.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This will open the sort contacts by sub menu.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2. Arrow down to online/offline and press enter.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The first time you have a conversation with someone, to remove
the
> >> tool
> >> > > bar
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and side bar from the conversation windows,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and disable emoticons:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1. Open any conversation window.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2. Press alt v, and arrow down until it says enable emoticons.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If it says checked, press enter to uncheck it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 3. Re-enter the view menu, and arrow down until you see show
> > toolbar.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Press enter if it is checked.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 4. Re-enter the view menu and arrow down until it says show
> > sidebar.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Press enter if it is checked.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You should only have to do this once, but there is a slight
> >> possibility
> >> > > >
> >> > > > that you will have to do it twice. After that, the settings
should
> >> > > >
> >> > > > remain as you set them.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Next here is a quick overview of the changes you might need to
make
> > in
> >> > the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > options. Press alt T for tools, O for options.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On the personal page, you can type in a screen name as you want
> > other
> >> > > users
> >> > > >
> >> > > > to see it. Also tab to show graphical emoticons and uncheck it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Control tab to the preferences page and if you don't want MSN to
> > start
> >> > > >
> >> > > > automatically with Windows, uncheck the box for run this program
> > when
> >> > > >
> >> > > > windows starts. (Note, also if you use OE, go to your tools menu
> >> > > > in
> >> OE
> >> > > and
> >> > > > then options
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and tab to automatically log onto Windows messenger and uncheck
> >> > > > it.)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On the preferences page leave the alert checkboxes checked as
they
> > are
> >> > for
> >> > > > sound
> >> > > >
> >> > > > notifications.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Enter on okay to close the dialog.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now that you have MSN set up, to add a contact, press alt T for
> > tools,
> >> > and
> >> > > >
> >> > > > enter on add a contact.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Leave the radio button selected for by email address and enter on
> > next
> >> > and
> >> > > >
> >> > > > enter the person's MSN contact address.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To send a message to a contact, you can hit enter on the contacts
> > name
> >> > in
> >> > > >
> >> > > > the main messenger window.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You can save your conversation by going to the files menu with
alt
> > f,
> >> > then
> >> > > >
> >> > > > press A, then a standard save dialog appears. The conversations
> >> > > >
> >> > > > will be saved as a text file. To leave a conversation hit
escape.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To start a voice chat with a contact, press the windows
application
> >> key
> >> > > >
> >> > > > while focused on the contact name and choose start a voice
> >> conversation
> >> > > from
> >> > > >
> >> > > > the context menu.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I recommend you go to the tools menu and run the audio tuning
> >> > > > wizard
> >> > first
> >> > > >
> >> > > > before you try to voice chat with someone.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You can also start a voice chat from a conversation window by
> > pressing
> >> > alt
> >> > > A
> >> > > >
> >> > > > for the actions menu and enter on start talking. Once they
accept
> >> your
> >> > > >
> >> > > > invitation to voice chat you can just start speaking into your
> >> > microphone.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To send a file, press the windows application key while focused
on
> > the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > contact name and enter on send a file from the context menu.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You can also send a file from a conversation window by pressing
alt
> > A
> >> > for
> >> > > >
> >> > > > the actions menu and enter on send a file.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A standard open dialog will come up for you to locate your file.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > As well, if someone sends you a file, it will be placed in
> >> > > >
> >> > > > c:\my documents\messenger service received files or c:\my
> > documents\my
> >> > > >
> >> > > > received files.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You can block or unblock a sender by focusing on the contact name
> > and
> >> > then
> >> > > >
> >> > > > pressing the application key and arrow down to block or unblock.
> >> > > > If
> >> you
> >> > > >
> >> > > > want to find out who a contact might be, hit alt enter on their
> >> > > > name
> >> and
> >> > > use
> >> > > >
> >> > > > the JAWS cursor to read their email address.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To change your status, tab to where it says my status and your
name
> > in
> >> > the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > main messenger window and press the application key and enter on
> >> > > > the
> >> > > status
> >> > > >
> >> > > > you wish to be seen by others.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you use Jaws 4.50, it will already come with some excellent
> > scripts
> >> > > that
> >> > > >
> >> > > > will automatically read incoming messages to you, alert you when
> >> > contacts
> >> > > >
> >> > > > come online and notify you of who is sending you a message.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The messages will be placed on the task bar and you can alt tab
to
> > the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > conversation when you are notified that someone has
> >> > > >
> >> > > > sent you a message.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Reading Messages
> >> > > >
> >> > > > When the conversation window is maximized, JAWS automatically
reads
> >> > > incoming
> >> > > > messages. JAWS automatically maximizes the message window as soon
> >> > > > as
> >> it
> >> > is
> >> > > >
> >> > > > opened. JAWS also provides commands that allow you to read
previous
> >> > > > messages. For more information about these commands, refer to
> >> > > >
> >> > > > JAWS Commands for MSN Instant Messenger.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > MSN Messenger Notifications
> >> > > >
> >> > > > MSN Messenger displays notification messages to indicate when a
> >> contact
> >> > > has
> >> > > > signed on and to inform you when a new HotMail email message has
> > been
> >> > > > received.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > JAWS reads these notifications when they appear, even if you are
> >> working
> >> > > in
> >> > > > another application. To hear the name of the contact who signed
in
> >> most
> >> > > > recently,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > press ALT+SHIFT+F12. JAWS says, "X signed in at y," with y being
> >> > > > the
> >> > time
> >> > > > the contact signed in.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If you are working in another window, MSN plays a sound to alert
> >> > > > you
> >> > that
> >> > > > someone is sending you an instant message. To switch to this
> >> > > > "urgent
> >> > > > conversation,"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > press CTRL+SHIFT+DASH. JAWS reads the most recent message in the
> >> > > > conversation window.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Typing Notification
> >> > > >
> >> > > > When a conversation window is maximized, a clicking sound is
heard
> >> while
> >> > > the
> >> > > > contact is typing. To toggle this sound, press CTRL+SHIFT+F12.
JAWS
> >> can
> >> > > also
> >> > > >
> >> > > > announce when the contact is typing a message. To toggle the
status
> > of
> >> > > this
> >> > > > announcement, press ALT+CTRL+F12. If typing sounder and
> >> > > > announcement
> >> are
> >> > > > disabled,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > press F12 to check the typing status. If the contact is typing a
> >> > message,
> >> > > a
> >> > > > single click sounds.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Channels
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Channels allow you to move quickly to a conversation window from
> >> > > > any
> >> > other
> >> > > > open window, including the windows for other applications. To
> >> > > > assign
> > a
> >> > > > conversation
> >> > > >
> >> > > > to a channel, press CTRL+1 through 5. To move to a channel which
> >> > > > has
> >> > been
> >> > > > assigned, press CTRL+SHIFT+1 through 5.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Emoticons
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Emoticons are combinations of characters that resemble graphics
> >> > > > when
> >> > > > rotated. JAWS provides a list of common emoticons for use with
MSN
> >> > > > messenger. JAWS
> >> > > >
> >> > > > also uses this list to interpret emoticons in the message window
> >> > > > and
> >> > reads
> >> > > > them as part of the incoming message.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To open the list of emoticons, press CTRL+SHIFT+M. To move
through
> > the
> >> > > list,
> >> > > > press UP or DOWN ARROW. To insert the selected emoticon into your
> >> > > > conversation,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > press ENTER.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > VOICE CONVERSATIONS
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To start a voice conversation, from within the main message
window,
> >> tab
> >> > to
> >> > > > the button labelled Start a Voice Conversation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Brian Hartgen
> >> > > >
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