--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Gordon Swobe <wittrsamr@...> wrote: > Following Searle, we can reduce mental phenomena to third-person causal descriptions without reducing them ontologically. If the experience of pain is nothing like the firing of C-fibers, in what sense has pain been reduced? In the sense that there is no pain without C-fibers firing? If so, (but I rather doubt it because people report pain under all sorts of conditions which wouldn't seem to warrant it), setting that aside, how do we describe the causal relation between C-fibers and the experience/report of pain? bruce ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/