Speaking as a newbie, Ted's thoughts below really hit home. "Is it enough to say that a bird belongs to a given order//family, or should those traits be explained as well?" I don't have a birding background, which means I'm trying to teach my bird-crazy son something I know nothing about when we go out together. We have our few guides, but when people talk/post about order/family characteristics, either we're not reading the guides well enough, the info isn't in the guides, or we're just not getting the information from wherever people learn this sort of thing. I know that for me, a useful guide would include a side-by-side comparison of orders/families, or some sort of flowchart-tree that helps narrow identification by characteristics. "How much attention has really been paid to the bird itself? Are you learning what the bird actually looks/sounds like (be it shape, color, behavior, etc), or are you just recognizing it?" This is something I'm also trying to stress with him: to really _watch_ the birds he sees so that he's not just claiming the ID, but so that he will be able to ID it again in future more confidently and easily. It can be too easy to get locked into what a description says, match it up to a bird, and move on: not study the bird and learn what you're really seeing. When a description, photo, or drawing is inadequate, this makes repeated identification (and, therefore, learning) really challenging. Anna Keaney (long-suffering mother) Gibson Dullea (eager son) Madison, Dane On 8/21/2012 12:47 PM, Edward Keyel wrote: > Some of the questions I'd like to bring up are what makes for a good > write-up as well as what makes for being able to make a good write up? Is > it enough to say that a bird belongs to a given order//family, or should > those traits be explained as well? How much attention has really been paid > to the bird itself? Are you learning what the bird actually looks/sounds > like (be it shape, color, behavior, etc), or are you just recognizing it? > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn