[vip_students] Re: I had An audiologist listen to The Ryan Air captcha sound prompts - and she could not interpret them

  • From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <omeadhrac@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:06:09 +0100

I am happy to report that WebVisum does solve The Ryan Air captcha in two
different versions of Mozilla Firefox: versions 11 and 13.0.1.  

The site itself is sluggish to respond but accurate if you use the tab key
and a lot of patience. It is also important to press "enter" on each of the
four fields: Departure and arrival cities and departure and arrival dates
otherwise you get a warning that JAWS cannot read except for the OK button
at the bottom of the warning! This left me guessing which field was causing
the problem. However, tabbing around the first four fields showed which one
was not filled in correctly. but s 

All the best,


Cearbhall 

T: +353 (0)1 6364364 m: 08333 23487 E: omeadhrac@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: 06 August 2012 23:07
To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vip_students] Re: I had An audiologist listen to The Ryan Air
captcha sound prompts - and she could not interpret them

I may do that in my own time. Whether ryanAir works with it or not, there
are thousands of sites that do and a few thousand that don't.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:46 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: I had An audiologist listen to The Ryan Air
captcha sound prompts - and she could not interpret them


> Why don't you give this Ryanair site a go Flor and report back if the
> Webism solved the capture.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:32 PM
> Subject: [vip_students] Re: I had An audiologist listen to The Ryan
> Air captcha sound prompts - and she could not interpret them
>
>
>> bert,
>>
>> what WebVisum does is take the normal image CAPTCHA and interprets
>> it. So where it works you don't need to use the audio CAPTCHA - which
>> is anyway and purposely more difficult to resolve than the visual
>> image. It works on the majority of sites. Some it won't work on, as
>> where the image changes too quickly between tries.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "albert brown" <albertbrown@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 11:47 AM
>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: I had An audiologist listen to The Ryan
>> Air captcha sound prompts - and she could not interpret them
>>
>>
>>> Hello Aidan,
>>>
>>> I came across this website which helps with audio captcha.
>>> they use something called WebVisum.
>>> I never tried out this solution
>>>
>>> the only problem you have to use fireFox as your web browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> you will find the link below.
>>>
>>> Bert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://www.webvisum.com/
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Aidan Carolan" <melocarolan@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: [vip_students] I had An audiologist listen to The Ryan Air
>>> captcha sound prompts - and she could not interpret them
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bank holiday Monday 6 August 2012
>>>>
>>>> Stuart,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for responding to my email yet once again    -  - you state
>>>> in your
>>>> email that "once I solve the captcha I have no other problems" -
>>>> however -
>>>> it is not clear as to whether you personally solve the captcha
>>>> problem with
>>>> or without assistance - and perhaps you might clarify this point
>>>> for me - I
>>>> make that observation in the light of the fact that I certainly
>>>> cannot
>>>> independently solve the captcha problem - I fully accept that
>>>> hearing
>>>> capacity - somewhat like sight capacity - from individual to
>>>> individual is a
>>>> subjective matter  - I would therefore be most interested as to
>>>> hear from
>>>> any other VIPS contributor who has recently successfully and
>>>> independently
>>>> interpreted the captcha sounds prompts problem ------ I asked an
>>>> audiologist
>>>> to listen to and comment upon the capcha sound prompts on the Ryan
>>>> Air site
>>>> and she said that she could not make sense of them nor could any of
>>>> her
>>>> colleagues     who were present at the time.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to your reply.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aidan Carolan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart
>>>> Lawler
>>>> Sent: 05 August 2012 16:37
>>>> To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Ryan Air booking problems - I am aware
>>>> of the
>>>> cause - it is the solution which I am seeking
>>>>
>>>> Hi Aidan,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, once I solve the captcha, which is admittedly very difficult
>>>> at
>>>> present, I have no other problems using any part of the Ryanair
>>>> site.
>>>>
>>>> The audio Captcha is not their problem, in fact, they are doing us
>>>> a service
>>>> by including it. The issue is that Google, who run the service,
>>>> have made it
>>>> virtually unusable at present.
>>>>
>>>> Flor is correct when he says that it is very difficult to contact
>>>> anyone in
>>>> Google to look towards resolving this, but I shall continue to try.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stuart
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Aug 2012, at 03:58 p.m., "Aidan Carolan"
>>>> <melocarolan@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 3 August 2012
>>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon Stuart,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for responding to my Email - however - you don't confirm in
>>>> your
>>>>> email that you actually do now unassistedly get through the
>>>>> captcha
>>>>> hurdle and that you do now successfully complete flight bookings
>>>>> with
>>>>> Ryan Air and if you do so I would appreciate the details of your
>>>>> successful formula --- you will be aware from my correspondence
>>>>> with you
>>>> of approxoimately A year
>>>>> ago that I have been in contact with Michael O'Leary     of Ryan
>>>>> Air
>>>>> regarding this problem - and that - while I consider that he was
>>>>> personally most gracious in Devoting some time to addressing the
>>>>> problem - the problem remains unresolved -  I am also acutely
>>>>> aware
>>>>> that technically the ultimate resolution to the problem rests with
>>>>> Google - and at the time of our previous correspondence I sought
>>>>> that
>>>>> the NCBI would take up the challenge with Ryan Air/Google of
>>>>> resolving
>>>>> this problem - rather than allowing an
>>>>> technically ill equipped individual member   of NCBI off on a
>>>>> perhaps
>>>> futile
>>>>> solo run - however - to my disappointment   I found that while
>>>>> there was a
>>>>> great deal of prevarication on the subject on the part of NCBI it
>>>>> was
>>>>> not accompanied by any positive action at least that I was made
>>>>> aware
>>>>> of - I - with respect to yourself and to management in the NCBI -
>>>>> don't wish again to engage in protracted correspondence on this
>>>>> matter
>>>>> ---- I simply just wish to know if there are any among our fellow
>>>>> members who can successfully manage the Ryan Air site and if so if
>>>>> they would be kind enough to let me know in detail through an
>>>>> email as to
>>>> how they do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> With best regards and good wishes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aidan Carolan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart
>>>>> Lawler
>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2012 13:10
>>>>> To: 'vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>>>>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Difficulties in making my way through
>>>>> the
>>>>> Ryan Air site - Would appreciate your help
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Aidan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I must sympathise and indeed empathise with you in relation to
>>>>> your
>>>>> problems being experienced on the Ryanair site.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it is important to point out that in this case, the fault
>>>>> is
>>>>> not with Ryanair, but with Google, who are providing the audio
>>>>> captcha
>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many other websites that use this system are having the same
>>>>> issues.
>>>>> It is Google that queries need to be directed to, and not Ryanair.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be fair to Ryanair, once you get through the captcha, the site
>>>>> is
>>>>> absolutely perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aidan
>>>>> Carolan
>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2012 12:43
>>>>> To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [vip_students] Difficulties in making my way through the
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>> Air site - Would appreciate your help
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see attachment ref. my difficulties in making my way
>>>>> through
>>>>> the Ryan Air site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aidan Carolan
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
>>>>> O'Regan
>>>>> Sent: 05 May 2012 12:37
>>>>> To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: JAWS and the Word Spelling Checker
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Susan,
>>>>>
>>>>>  The goo.gl link works fine for me, but here's the full link in
>>>>> all
>>>>> it's unabridged glory:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/helpful-feature-for-jaws-in-the
>>>>> -word-
>>>>> spelling-checker-HA010269453.aspx?CTT=5&origin=HA010257414
>>>>>
>>>>> No prizes for guessing why I shortened it.  It's bound to get
>>>>> wrapped
>>>>> somewhere along the way between you and me so you'll have to Copy
>>>>> &
>>>>> Paste it into your browser's address bar in two stages,
>>>>>
>>>>> good luck,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
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