(VICT) Re: Task ideas- Feedback?

  • From: Sheila Styron <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:22:05 -0500

This list is so good for me. I am on an emotional wave length with all
of you, but it's like I am an illiterate author or something. Now please
explain to me why tail tucking is a desirable or useful behavior. 

Sheila Styron, President
Guide Dog Users, Inc.
816-363-3172
sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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[mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Diane &
Raven
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:55 PM
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Subject: (VICT) Re: Task ideas- Feedback?


There is a work book, and a set of DVD's for teaching assistance dog
behaviors, by different authors. The DVD's are pricey, the workbook is
on Karen Pryor's site.
There is are yahoo discussion groups where there are behavior teaching
shared.  OC-Assist-Dogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  assistance-dogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
tasktraining_Assistance-Dogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  and of course my group and
my website will have some teaching details and video for task teaching.

these are general sites and not focused on guide behaviors so you may
have to wade through many posts while you wait for an answer you are
looking for.  My group is not yet that large but is not total focus on
behaviors and there is a lot of other discussions that go on there.

I think this group is great for guide information and very helpful
information.  My personal thoughts are that there are every experienced
people here that can help or will find the information needed.

I have been searching for the tail tuck information I promised and was
unable to find it in my files. this is how I would teach it.... if you
use the clicker principals of breaking any behavior into the smallest
pieces before teaching.  Than you take those tiny pieces and teach each
one so that the piece is solid and reliable before moving on to the next
piece of the behavior so that you have a strong foundation.
Back-chaining is the process of teaching the end of the behavior first
and moving to the beginning of the behavior.  this sets the dog up for
success because the dog always knows what comes next.  

the process isn't mystical, the magic is in the patience, frequency of
marking and rewarding, timing and generosity with marking and rewarding
when building a behavior.  And also not lumping... Lumping is the term
used when you take too big of a piece or pieces of the behavior.
lumping happens from inexperience and sometimes excitement at well and
quickly the dog responds and so the handler tries to move ahead too
quickly too fast.

I am firm believer in teaching journals (thus: AssistanceDogJournal.net)
because they help with learning for us and the dog and to review to see
the progress you are making and the concerns.  Also owner-trainers
should always have a journal a detailed record of all teaching the dog
receives and tasks taught.

Oh, my I do go on some times,sorry.

Best Wishes & Wags,
Diane & Raven
APDT#72225
http://AssistanceDogJournal.net
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Golden_Paw_ADC/
"My Assistance Dog is not my whole life, but she makes my life whole"
~D.L.Shotwell "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul
remains unawakened." ~Anatole France

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