They Art guild hosts very few opportunities for sales so it shouldn't be
that difficult to avoid bringing items that are against the rules. As
artists we are free to attend other events and be as creative we want. I
as an artist do not put restrictions on myself or others.
Eileen
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 9:44 AM beadmistrs <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
While this is a lovely discussion, it’s gotten way off the point that as
written the beading guidelines for the guild excludes me from membership.
Connie
“Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death.”
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Roselynn Russell in Auntie Mame
On Monday, October 11, 2021, 7:23 AM, brianbrook <brianbrook@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
What you jury in with should be reflective of the work you display and
sell at guild events. For example, let's say I present 5 or 6 (or however
many pieces) for jurying that are metal yard art pieces. It's not OK to
display those pieces and then fill my booth with purchased metal trinkets
with pins or clasps glued to the back (or other similar items). If I want
to sell such items, there are plenty of craft shows that may allow me in.
Over the past 20 years of doing juried fine art fairs. I've seen more than
a few shows degrade into country crafts and dip mix sellers with a few fine
artists thrown in. When that new , lower level of expection is reached
it's nearly impossible to return to a previous level. Those shows
permanently became mid level craft shows.
So I think it's important to strictly maintain an expectation of a high
level of quality. And, no, not everything I display needs to be
"spectacular", but rather needs to reflect my skills, abilities, and
artistic creativity while meeting the written Guild standards.
Can I still be called an artist if I buy pre-made metal trinkets, glue a
pin to the back and sell them? Sure.
But I would simply need to find a different venue than the Three Rivers
Artists Guild.
Brian
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Subject: [Guild] Re: jurying rules refresher...
I'm okay with that as long as Guild events are clearly defined as such. As
a newbie I'm not sure what is and what isn't. The Pop-Up Gallery and
Holiday Gallery are obvious but what if I hear about an event through the
Guild but it isn't put on or sponsored by the Guild? Some clarification
will be needed. Really good discussion thread!
Matteo
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Judith Brook wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. Have seen some items that are definitely not up to
fine art standards, or for that matter, fine craft. We need to remove
anything that is sub-standard. Bread and butter should be relegated to
other types of venues, not our Guild events.
On 10/10/2021 9:13 AM Doug Bingaman <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I believe these "bread and butter" pieces may be the issue we are talking
about. We all know what we juried in with, it's these "extras" sliding in
under the radar that are reducing our art gallery feel to a craft show.
Again, I feel we must always display quality in our art, not reduce it to
make money. Save that for other events that have lower requirements. Kathy
B.
On October 10, 2021, at 8:40 AM, "beadmistrs@xxxxxxx" <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Store bought findings are fine to use. It's the straight up stringing of
store bought stuff that looks like it's from target we dont want.
As for only selling what we were juried in with, that will eliminate most
people's bread and butter pieces, which tend to be less spectacular.
Connie
"Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death."
Auntie Mame
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:30 AM, Doug Bingaman
< dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So...no store bought findings? I am fine with this, but we need to know
where to draw the line. I have made beads and added a purchased clip to
make zipper pulls. These were the biggest sellers for me. I also use
purchased headpins, but can learn to make my own if the rules say so. I am
more concerned with the "craft" direction that some artwork is headed. I
was under the impression that your art must be what you juried in showing,
not just able to create anything you want once accepted into the guild. I
would like opinions on this, as I have been experimenting on ideas on
creative ideas that are polymer art, but not exclusively jewelry. Kathy B.
On October 9, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Judith Brook <
moondancefiberart@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sounds good to me. That applies to all pieces by any juried in artist.
On 10/07/2021 9:08 PM beadmistrs < dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How’s this sound?
Guidelines for beadwork by bead makers, weavers, and stitchers.
Beaded pieces must show skill with both design, and techniques.*
*i.e. no loose threads, ends and edges well finished, bead holes
nicely rounded.
Strung items made with store bought beads and findings are not acceptable.
Connie
“Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death.”
Roselynn Russell in Auntie Mame
On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 6:11 AM, Doug Bingaman <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all. I agree with what Christine wrote. Seed beading is an art, even
though each one is manufactured, similar to mosaics. I'm not sure this was
the main issue. The quality of each piece made should be at the same level
as the ones used to jury in. Smaller, less expensive art should meet the
same standards as more pricey art. For example, a smaller painting must be
just as well done as a large one. When judging in a new member, I feel we
should emphasize this fact. I understand that we would like to make some
money during our sales events, but not by lowering our standards. Any
quality below what was juried in should not be allowed. No matter the price
or size, each piece should be a handmade treasure. Thanks, Kathy B.
On October 5, 2021, at 9:02 AM, William Welty < weltyart@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Well said Christine. Bill
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:19 PM Christine < christinehartzellisme@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
There were jewelry people on the jury, and the pieces Connie brought
showed the complex and interesting pieces she did with the beads--the beads
were not the main point, they were just the media used in the pieces. This
is very different from people who just string manufactured beads into a
necklace and leave it at that! The beads in her pieces play a "subordinate
role in the finished piece".
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 8:29 PM beadmistrs@xxxxxxx <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Judith,
It was the wording that kept me from applying for so long.
Connie
"Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death."
Auntie Mame
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 8:16 PM, Judith Brook
< moondancefiberart@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I would like to contradict my husband’s appraisal. Yes, as written your
work is disqualified. However, the artistic value and design of your work
far exceeds “bead stringers” who buy and then string beads. You embroider
with manufactured beads. Big difference. Ruth uses some manufactured beads
but she adds her own findings. Not to worry.
On 10/01/2021 6:58 PM brianbrook < brianbrook@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Connie,
I don't know what you presented when you juried in. I suspect you
presented some of your other work that was not beads (of which you have
quite a bit),
The list of what is not acceptable is very typical for most fine art fairs
I've been in. I don't know about artist guilds or groups, but I believe
we're very consistent in our jurying expectations. We expect our artists to
carry the jury expectations through to the art they display.
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Date: 10/1/21 1:06 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: threeriversart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lisa DeVine <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Guild] Re: jurying rules refresher...
I think the bit about beaded stuff needs to change due to the fact that as
written I do not qualify as a member, and yet here I am.
Connie k
"Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death."
Auntie Mame
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:49 PM, Lisa DeVine
< dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To save all potential guild jurors time... I've copied jurying info from
our website.
Unacceptable for jurying
BY ARTNEWS ON JANUARY 20, 2011
Work based primarily on manufactured items is not acceptable for jurying.
This includes, but isn’t limited to, such things as:
- Beaded jewelry assembled from purchased beads and fittings. For the
purposes of the Guild, beads must be made by the artist. Any manufactured
beads and fittings used must clearly play a subordinate role in the
finished piece.
- T-shirts, sweat shirts, hats, and other commercially manufactured
clothes, no matter how embellished by the artist.
- Tole painting.
- Cut coin jewelry.
- Pieces assembled from kits.
- Anything made in a commercial mold, in any medium.
- Stud earrings in commercially made settings.
- Enamels on manufactured representational copper shapes.
- Manufactured items.
- Manufactured tiles with a design as a major component of the piece.
- Dried flowers, whether they are in groups, arrangement, or bouquets.
- Wreaths.
- Dough art or food.
These exceptions are pretty typical of artist groups, art shows, and most
arts&crafts fairs. (The basic list is from Judi Brook, after some
discussion.) The ‘what is art’ debate isn’t relevant, since if you call it
art, that is what it is. The Guild’s artist members would like to be
represented by a certain *kind* of art, which is the reason for the
jurying process.
*V. JURYING-IN:* The Board will appoint one Artist Member as Membership
Chair. The Membership Chair may be an elected member of the Board or an
ex-officio member of the Board and is a voting member of the Board. This
officer will arrange for a time, place and a Jury when a new member
applies. The Membership Chair shall set the method by which the jury makes
its decision (checklist of points, subjective decision after discussion,
etc.) and prepare ballots if needed. The Jury will consist of five Artist
Members of the Guild. The decision of The Guild is final. Artists not
accepted at the first jurying may reapply after one year.
- *5a. ACCEPTABLE WORKS:* Before calling for a Jury, the Membership
Chair should attempt to find out if the applicant has read the “Acceptable
Works for Jurying” and “Unacceptable Works for Jurying” on the Guild’s
website, at https://3rivart.org/join-the-guild, and if the applicant
has work that will fit with the Guild’s mission. (The Membership officer
should also make clear to the prospective member that they are not just
paying to be in the Holiday Gallery, the Guild is a non profit organization
and has other obligations to the community. The prospective member will be
expected to participate throughout the year.)
- *5b. PROCESS FOR JURYING IN OF ARTIST MEMBERS:* Applicants shall be
juried in at a time and place determined by the Membership Chair.
Prospective members will bring five pieces of recent work for jurying on
the assigned date, properly prepared for presentation (see
https://3rivart.org/presentation for more).
- *5c. JURYING-IN STANDARDS:* To assist in understanding the process
of jurying-in, typical jurying-in standards for a fine art group are listed
below. Jurors should not be considering the salability of the pieces of
artwork presented for jurying, but rather consider the pieces’ coherence
and artistic qualities.Five items are usually considered; Artistic style,
Technical skill, Design and Consistency, Presentation, and an Overall
Impression.
- *1.Artistic style:Works show the individual style of the artist.*
*Works are not copied; pieces express the artists personal feelings
and thoughts.*
- *2.Technical skill:Handling of the media and materials in the
works shows control, skill and experience.*
- *3.Design and consistency:The design or composition of the works
exhibit knowledge of the principles of design.*
*Works show a design consistency within each piece and through the
pieces presented.*
*Works show that they have taken time, thought, knowledge and skill
to complete.*
- *4.Presentation:Works are presented in a manner that enhances the
art.Pieces presented are complete and ready for display.*
- *5.Overall impression: Jurors will need to have a positive
overall impression of the works presented. This will be a subjective
decision, and will depend on the particular jury and jurors.*
