[THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes
- From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:09:46 -0500
Fabulous Warren! Download pick of the week blogged
http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2009/01/download-pick-tskaasplat-close-and.html
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Warren Simondson <caditc@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Okay Lan, I like what you've got, but I personally hate scripts, so after
> seeing that TSKaapop
> wasn't exactly what you're after, I went and sat on the dunny and did some
> thinking.
>
> Guess what, I came up with TSkaaSplat. Now this basically takes what you
> are doing in you script
> and puts it into one .exe. My concern with TASKKILL, which I personally use
> all the time, is when
> you call something like TASKKILL /IM Notepad.exe on a terminal server, it
> has the potential to
> terminate other instantance of notepad.exe outside that current session.
> Now in most cases it won't
> but, it could, and I've seen it happen.
>
> So what I did was create TSKaaSplat to launch the app and then kill any
> processes that you list on
> the command line after the app closes. So you could publish something like:
>
> TSKAASPLAT d:\apps\MSEXCEL.EXE calc.exe virusscan.exe
>
> This will launch EXCEL and when it is closed by the user, it will search
> that session for the
> processes calc.exe and virusscan.exe and kill them. No other session is
> affected.
>
> I also added a kill ALL option. So for example:
>
> TSKAASPLAT d:\apps\MSEXCEL.EXE *
>
> This will launch EXCEL and when it is closed by the user, it will kill all
> other processes running in
> that session and log the user off. Now everyone's going to say that you can
> just publish Excel alone
> and when you close it, the session will logoff, so what's the point of a
> Kill ALL option, but how many
> people get hung sessions when they close an app because some other little
> process is working
> away in the background? Well this is the answer.
>
> Anyway, this was a very enjoyable challenge, so I hope it helps everyone
> out there.
>
> As always download it from: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au/CAD_TSUtils.htm
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> TSKaasplat is a command-line utility to run a single application from one
> command with the further ability to close other given processes on exiting
> the initial application.
> This utility was written to allow a single call to launch an application
> in its own process, and on closing that application, other processes within
> the same sessions, as specified in the command line, can be terminated
> simutaneously.
> TSKaasplat with its parameters can exist as a shortcut on the desktop, can
> be run
> in a script, or published as a single application. TSKaasplat will work as
> a
> Seamless Published application in a Citrix environment. If single
> applications are
> launched via TSKaasplat in a Seamless environment, the session will close
> after
> it has terminated the given processes as listed in the command line.
> If for example, notepad.exe is launched via TSKaasplat as the first
> parameter,
> and calc.exe and excel.exe are listed as processes to be terminated upon
> notepad.exe closing, then when the user closes notepad in the normal
> fashion,
> calc and excel will be terminated. If this command was presented
> as a published application in Citrix or directly called from a Terminal
> Services Client, then the session will also close.
>
> Usage:
> TSKaasplat [[PATH][Application] [Processname | *] ...] [/?]
>
> PATH - Path to the Application
> Application - Application Executable
> Processname - Process name to kill on exiting the application.
> * - Kill all session processes on exiting the application and
> logoff.
> /? - Show this help file
>
> TSKaasplat without parameters will display this help file.
>
> NOTE: If a PATH or Application does not exist, TSKaasplat will
> terminate at that point. The first parameter must be the initial
> application to run.
>
> E.G. TSKaasplat "c:\Program Files\Office11\EXCEL.EXE" notepad.exe calc.exe
> This command will launch MS Excel. When MS Excel is closed
> by the user, the system will then look for any processes of
> notepad.exe and calc.exe running in the same session and
> and terminate them if they exist.
>
> E.G. TSKaasplat "c:\Program Files\Office11\EXCEL.EXE" *
> This command will launch MS Excel. When MS Excel is closed
> by the user, the system will then look for any other processes
> running in that session, terminate them and logoff the session
>
> This utility is FREEWARE and was written by Warren Simondson of
> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy, Australia. www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
>
> Although written for Terminal Server and Citrix environments, this
> application
> will function on non-TS/Citrix workstations and servers.
> This application has been tested on the following platforms:
>
> Windows 2008 Server
> Windows 2003 Server SP1 w/ Citrix PS 4.0/ XA 5.0
> Windows 2003 Server SP1 (Terminal Server Application Mode)
> Windows 2000 Server SP4 w/ Citrix MF XP
> Windows 2000 Server SP4 (Terminal Server Application Mode)
> Windows 2000 Server SP4 w/ Citrix MF 1.8
> The freeware version is offered AS IS. Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy has made
> every effort possible to ensure that TSKaasplat is free of any bugs or
> errors,
> however in no way is TSKaasplat to be considered error or bug free.
> You assume all responsibility for any damages or lost data that may result
> from any errors or bugs in TSKaasplat.
>
> IN NO EVENT WILL CTRL-ALT-DEL IT CONSULTANCY BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY
> GENERAL,
> SPECIAL, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT
> OF
> THIS PRODUCT.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Warren Simondson
>
> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
>
>
>
>
> Quoting TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Tskill couldn't find the process name. But Taskkill does, and
> > correctly
> > drops the offending processes (without killing off other processes of
> > the
> > same name running in different sessions).
> >
> > Still have a bit more testing to do with it, but it looks like this
> > setup
> > will workout for us (fingers crossed ;) )
> >
> > For the record, I've setup the following:
> >
> > 2 cmd scripts.
> >
> > 1st script, runs a "start ctxhide 2ndscript.cmd" then exits
> > - this effectively hides the 2nd cmd file from view
> > 2nd script calls the core program exe - start "name" /wait
> > c:\pathtoexe(dos
> > namming format pathing) -switches
> > - after the core exe closes down, the next line "taskkill /im
> > processname"
> > drops the systray processes.
> >
> > Again thanks to all for their input on this issue.
> >
> > Lan
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The start /wait script file seems to be on the right track,
> > however, I've
> > > run into an odd issue.
> > >
> > > tskill when called either from script or from the command line
> > state's that
> > > it cannot find the processes I need to kill by name. If the
> > processid is
> > > entered instead, the processes die with no issues.
> > >
> > > since processid is a rather random value, this is something of a
> > stumbling
> > > block atm. thoughts?
> > >
> > > Much thanks, feels like we're close to getting this bugger sorted
> > out
> > >
> > > Lan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for the feedback gang. Testing out the TSkaapop utility did
> > not do
> > >> the trick for us. May be related to how the app loads, as we don't
> > call
> > >> multiple EXE's at once. The core app when launched as a "-" switch
> > that's
> > >> defined and that calls up the other two EXE's that drop to the
> > systray.
> > >>
> > >> Working on trying out chris's suggestion on using qprocess to see
> > if we
> > >> can get that to drop the exe's after the core app is closed.
> > >>
> > >> will let you all know how it pans out.
> > >>
> > >> Lan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Warren Simondson
> > <caditc@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Check out a little freeware app called TSKaapop from Ctrl-Alt-Del
> > IT
> > >>> Consultancy, not to be confused
> > >>> with TSKaapow also available from Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy.
> > Download
> > >>> it from http://www.ctrl-alt-
> > >>> del.com.au/CAD_TSUtils.htm
> > >>>
> > >>> TSKaapop is a command-line utility to run multiple applications
> > from one
> > >>> command with the further ability to close those applications
> > >>> simultaneously
> > >>> with one action.
> > >>> This utility was written to allow a single call to launch
> > multiple
> > >>> applications
> > >>> in their own process, ensuring that a user has access to only
> > the
> > >>> applications
> > >>> they require in a single seamless or desktop session.
> > >>> TSKaapop with its parameters can exist as a shortcut on the
> > desktop, can
> > >>> be run
> > >>> in a script, or published as a single application that runs
> > multiple
> > >>> applications, each with its own process. TSKaapop will work as a
> > Seamless
> > >>> Published application in a Citrix environment. If multiple
> > applications
> > >>> are
> > >>> launched via TSKaapop in a Seamless environment, the session will
> > not
> > >>> close
> > >>> until each application has been closed or the first application
> > called in
> > >>> the
> > >>> command line of TSKaapop is closed. If for example, notepad.exe
> > is
> > >>> launched via
> > >>> TSKaapop as the first parameter, and calc.exe and excel.exe are
> > launched
> > >>> as the
> > >>> second and third parameters respectively, then all three
> > applications
> > >>> will
> > >>> launch, each as a separate process. If notepad.exe is then closed
> > by the
> > >>> user,
> > >>> then calc.exe and excel.exe will also terminate. If this command
> > was
> > >>> presented
> > >>> as a published application in Citrix or directly called from a
> > Terminal
> > >>> Services Client, then the session will also close. All
> > applications
> > >>> called by
> > >>> TSKaapop can be closed individually, excluding the first launched
> > which,
> > >>> as
> > >>> stated, will close any application called by TSKaapop.
> > >>>
> > >>> Usage:
> > >>> TSKaapop [[PATH][Application] [PATH][Application] ...] [/?]
> > >>>
> > >>> PATH - Path to the Application
> > >>> Application - Application Executable
> > >>> /? - Show this help file
> > >>>
> > >>> TSKaapop without parameters will display this help file.
> > >>>
> > >>> NOTE: If a PATH or Application does not exist, TSKaapop will
> > >>> terminate at that point. Any applications launched prior will
> > >>> still be operational.
> > >>>
> > >>> E.G. TSKaapop "c:\Program Files\Office11\EXCEL.EXE"
> > >>> c:\windows\system32\notepad.exe
> > >>> This command will launch MS Excel and notepad one after the
> > other.
> > >>>
> > >>> E.G. TSKaapop "c:\Program Files\Office11\EXCEL.EXE"
> > >>> "c:\windows\system32\notepad.exe
> > >>> h:\MyTextfile.txt"
> > >>> This command will launch MS Excel and h:\MyTextfile.txt in
> > notepad
> > >>> one after the other.
> > >>>
> > >>> This utility is FREEWARE and was written by Warren Simondson of
> > >>> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy, Australia. www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> > >>>
> > >>> Although written for Terminal Server and Citrix environments,
> > this
> > >>> application
> > >>> will function on non-TS/Citrix workstations and servers.
> > >>> This application has been tested on the following platforms:
> > >>>
> > >>> Windows 2008 Server
> > >>> Windows 2003 Server SP1
> > >>> Windows 2003 Server SP1 w/ Citrix PS 4.0/ XA 5.0
> > >>> Windows 2003 Server SP1 (Terminal Server Application Mode)
> > >>> Windows 2000 Server SP4
> > >>> Windows 2000 Server SP4 w/ Citrix MF XP
> > >>> Windows 2000 Server SP4 (Terminal Server Application Mode)
> > >>> Windows 2000 Server SP4 w/ Citrix MF 1.8
> > >>> Windows XP Professional (domain member)
> > >>> Windows Vista (domain member)
> > >>>
> > >>> The freeware version is offered AS IS. Ctrl-Alt-Del IT
> > Consultancy has
> > >>> made
> > >>> every effort possible to ensure that TSKaapop is free of any bugs
> > or
> > >>> errors,
> > >>> however in no way is TSKaapop to be considered error or bug
> > free.
> > >>> You assume all responsibility for any damages or lost data that
> > may
> > >>> result
> > >>> from any errors or bugs in TSKaapop.
> > >>>
> > >>> IN NO EVENT WILL CTRL-ALT-DEL IT CONSULTANCY BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR
> > ANY
> > >>> GENERAL,
> > >>> SPECIAL, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR OTHER DAMAGES
> > ARISING OUT
> > >>> OF
> > >>> THIS PRODUCT.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Warren Simondson
> > >>>
> > >>> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> > >>> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Quoting TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Afternoon listies,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We have an app run in seamless mode, which is used as a starter
> > point
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > ensure that a number of other applications can be started
> > within the
> > >>> > same
> > >>> > memory space (same server).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > One of the newer applications being launched by this starter
> > point,
> > >>> > has a
> > >>> > secondary EXE process spawned that drops directly down to the
> > system
> > >>> > tray.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All is well and good, until the main starter application is
> > closed.
> > >>> > The
> > >>> > spawned EXE's for the system tray app won't close without an
> > end
> > >>> > user
> > >>> > selecting to exit them specifically.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Have attempted the reg mods defined in -
> > >>> > http://support.citrix.com/article/ctx891671, but that hasn't
> > done it
> > >>> > for us
> > >>> > so far.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I was recall some kind of third party app, "launchit"
> > >>> > "launchthis"...or
> > >>> > something similar which can watch spawned processes and close
> > them
> > >>> > out after
> > >>> > the initially launched app closes.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Not finding it in my searches, curious if anyone else is aware
> > of a
> > >>> > utility
> > >>> > which will help us close out this little bugger of an exe.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > thanks,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Lan
> > >>> >
> > >>>
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