[THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
- From: "Tim Mangan" <tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:55:52 -0400
Not deploy, but I did sequence it and test it under SoftGrid and it worked
great.
tim
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Henry Sieff
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
If I needed to support more developers, or deploy the app on general-use
servers, I probably would opt for the softricity route.
Has anyone used Softricity to deploy vs.net?
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Henry Sieff
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:53 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
>
> For something like this virtualising or isolating the apps is
> almost certainly a requirement (see: Softgrid or app
> isolation environments in PS4), and performance optimisation
> software (tscale, armtech, appsense).
>
> Neil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff
> > Sent: 13 July 2005 16:09
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Visual Studio .NET
> >
> > I run a server with this for a development team of about 16, but
> > rarely do we see more than 4-6 users at a time. I saw performance
> > degradation when I had 10 users compile a large app at the
> same time,
> > but its been pretty stable and that useage pattern isn't
> normal, so I
> > would feel pretty confident putting 20 or so users on there doing
> > normal development, anything more and things may get interesting
> > because the IDE is very inefficient for running apps.
> >
> > I would strongly recommend, if you plan on pushing it to 20
> users and
> > beyond, that you use a CPU and/or memory optimization package like
> > tscale or armtech because your developers will starve each
> other and
> > the OS.
> >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/academic/techdown/techprod/netframew
> > ork/devsys
> > /devsysws03/default.aspx is a link to a bunch of stuff about doing
> > just this.
> >
> > Permissions can be hard - for some tasks (debugging asp.net apps in
> > IIS5) they need to be local admins (whidbey is supposed to fix this
> > problem). I simply use a runas and set up a local admin
> which they run
> > the app as once they log in if they need to do this. When I migrate
> > this to Win2k3, I can use II6 which allows me to give each
> developer
> > their own app pool which runs as them, and then they can debug to
> > their hearts content.
> >
> > Sysinternals is crucial since when they aren't running as
> local admin
> > they still need extra perms to HKCR, et al.
> >
> > Oh, and take images a lot, since at some point a third
> party control
> > will get installed that will fuxor everything.
> >
> > SourceSafe (I assume that's what you mean) was very easy and runs
> > great.
> > VS.NET is tougher, but as long as you are willing to spend
> some time
> > tweaking registry permissions and take steps to control
> changes (third
> > party control installation etc.) it can be pretty stable.
>
>
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